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definitely not a flat course, and probably play it a little differently now that I have seen it once. leave your driver at home even if you play the back tees. play to wide/ level places and still have less than 8 iron to almost every hole. greens are VERY receptive, but disappointing that most golfers don't fix their ball marks, I literally fix at least 5 on EVERY green, and there was more to fix, I addressed my line and my path to and from the cart, someone else can fix the rest.

has had a lot of rain but handles it very well. recognize I played under " winter rules" but the fairways and greens were still in nice conditions. Greens rolled, but much slower than I am used too. Plenty of blind shots, look forward to making another loop, now that I have a better idea of where to hit it. I am sure it plays much more difficult in the summer when they trees are full of leaves.

Warm but not hot and the course was vacant. My buddy and I cruised around the course at 3 hours, never waiting and letting a single play through. Greens were excellent, faster than anticipated. Fairways had some bare spots, but should be expected for this time of year in AZ. Always feel like I wasted a few shots out there, but that is more on me than because of the course conditions.