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If you love a challenge, this is the course for you. Before you play ask if they have a yardage book. Played from the back tees. Landing zones and yardages off the tee were a guess. All you see are parts of fairway. Would play again. Not sure why cart path only.

Played Longbow years ago but couldn’t remember the track. Tried again with some friends on their recommendation. A few distinct holes but other than that one hole is similar to the next. Nothing exciting. Played cartpath only, not sure why. Waited on every hole. Better courses there for the $

Played the Raven based on recommendations from some friends. Based on the other courses we played on this trip this was overpriced for the conditions, Better value and course at the Wildfire (Faldo), Dove Mountain, and Sothern Dunes.

We have been playing this course every year , over the last 5 years, on our annual Arizona golf excursion. It is typically one of our favorites. This year the course conditions were horrible. Dead trees littered the fairways, there was more weeds than grass. The facility itself looks rundown and old. It was easy to see that the condition of the course was a far cry from what we had experienced in the past. There are better choices for the money.

Too bad !!

Had not heard a lot about his course. Was pleasantly surprised with the lay-out, especially on the back nine. A lot of elevation changes makes it interesting. Pace of play was extremely slow on the front nine, didn't see a marshal.

We were running late and called to let the pro shop know. On our arrival there was no rush to make up time. The pro shop moved around some other times to allow us to get ready. That was appreciated. Only saw the cart girl once on each nine.

One of my favorites in the Phoenix area. Not your typical desert course. Miss the fairway and you play from dormant grass rather than gravel. Lots of water. Tough finishing holes.