TheGolfDr

How does Davie Youpa still have a job there. What has been done to these courses under his tenure is absolutely criminal. This is a resort to avoid people. SERIOUSLY!!!

It is absolutely beyond me how Two of the Very Best Golf Courses Anywhere in the WORLD have ended up like THIS! It is absolutely CRIMINAL! People should be held accountable for raping a golf club dry and never even putting one thin dime into it to keep it up. We see this time and again, but to a California Monument? WOW!!!
My son and I were devastated by the atrocious conditions.
It wasn't the money, or the fact that the greens were punched and sanded three days prior at all.
They claim to have 1400 members, but I would not be proud to call this home. In fact I ran into a few of my old buddies and we were discussing this very thing. I did notice in our discussions that heir heads were hung pretty low. Really SAD!

Greens were moist to hold approaches, but footprints were not coming back very quick. The greens were not very consistent in regards to their firmness, but overall a fun day was had by all. And Hey we even learned things too...
Be good and get better (if you have time to practice), or have fun and learn things...

Pace of play was perfect! We will come back again. It seems that more courses ought to go to 5 and six-somes. Play was right at tournament speed(for amateurs) a little over 5 hours. Happy to find a course where they believe that you shouldn't have to race around the course to placate the few that overbook their schedules and try to fit a 5 hour game into a 3 hour slot. ENOUGH of you fools!!! JUST STOP IT!!! Oh and by the way I actually shot 68!!! Had time to actually think and enjoy our playing partners. You know... actually found new friends. WOW! Novel concept... I think that everyone should quit trying to squeeze us seniors out of the game! HEY! We don't run as fast anymore...

I'm confused... did they sell this place? Who bought it? Are they going to run it into the ground or revive it? Good deal, but this place needs a lot of work.

Perfect day going along fine trying to settle into this monster of a course. My buddy was having problems on the first few holes but was just settling in when the marshall warns us to catch up or skip a hole. He showed up again and then upset my buddy who I had to lead to the cart to have a seat while I tried to talk to this knuckle-head. Come to find out the self-professed members, whom never gave us a clue as to where to leave it, were in his ear. Let em go I said much to his disbelief that I had figured it out. We were better and playing back and they didn't like it. Well ANDY AND EDDIE, WA WAH WAH. All being said and done this is not a 4 1/2 hour course..SORRY! I took some time and bought a few shirts and when ai pulled out of the parking lot it was 5 hours after we had teed it!
They are having the Bob Hope there in about 5 weeks and they have a long way to go on that course. Once again speed of play is trumping course maintenance. Well I have a news flash!!!
Speed of play slows dramatically when I have to fix more than 10 ball marks between my ball and the hole and I WILL keep repairing them! After all don't I deserve to make a birdie putt? It's bad enough to be in a divot or a foot print and an unraked bunker, but when I can I will fix ball marks. Sorry NOT SORRY!

Once again Oak Valley got me! This is one of my favorite in all of Southern California and one of the toughest if the wind comes up as it usually does in the afternoon. Great day I just left my swing in the garage at home.

I played here 30 some odd years ago and founr the course to be in pretty good shape even though the greens were a little long in anticipation of arrification the following Tuesday. Nice little track and plenty of thought provoking holes. I recommend this course to anybody. Just stay out of the rough... It's ROUGH!!!

I am sorry I cannot give a higher rating, but here goes...
I gave Pace of Play 5 stars since I was pretty much alone. I detest this category and cringe at the very phrase, since it has become more important than fixing divots, raking bunkers, and especially fixing ball marks.
Course conditions were wet and not rolling at all. From the tips made it very long thus the extremely difficult, but had it been a little drier then it would be somewhat challenging.
Bunkers wet and compact with water in most.
Greens were very slow, but true. I left 3-4 putts a few inches short. Just could not hit them that hard.
Overall a good experience, but the course was TOO WET! The overall 3 stars is because it IS all about the course after all.

I played High School golf in the Golden League about 45 years ago and this course was on our schedule. What a surprise to find it public now... Did not warm up as I do not like hitting yellow balls, but my game only suffered on the first 3 holes. Took me that long to realize that these greens require a look from all four sides.
Greens in good condition, but I always like them to be faster. Fairways in condition as well. BUNKERS? Well let's just say that after the first few holes I realized that I was not going in any more! And that worked just fine until #17. Oh well I got on the back side...
Use to be Hesperia was my High Desert Go To, but ever since the Parks and Recreation Department took hold of it... Well suffice to say that it is not my go to anymore.
Thanks for the memories Apple Valley Country Club

I did not play! I got there 2 hours early to practice then warm up, but their range was closed until 9 AM. The Golf Dr. is too old to play without warming up.

This golf course is another of my new favorites. How come they are all so far? Ted you rascal... the layout is fantastic, but there is one blemish and believe me #13 is a BIG ZIT! These new favorites of mine, I need to tell you all have stupid holes. Only one here though, #13. The fairways are tight and the greens are all you could ask for with the exception of a few on the back nine, and they could be back in one weekend of member focused activity, but all in all a good day. Lots of 3 woods and a course you could hit driver all day as well. Hit your approaches precise or be prepared. You won't make a thing.

You have this facilities courses rated at 4 stars?!
I can only comment on the Ike, but WOW! I have played a few 3 stars lately that were better. For the exact reasons I left this membership are exactly what I encountered upon my return. Their course is in disarray from FAST PLAY!!! Divots all over the fairways, bunkers not raked, and pits all over the greens not repaired! People all over the world... FIX YOUR OWN DAMAGE!!! This is disgusting to me that such a GREAT facility has become like Alondra Park. Such a shame...

This course caught me by surprise. I thoroughly enjoyed the nice tight fairways, which I found quite often. This course is a typical country club requiring 3 wood from most tees with wedges in. If you are not on the proper tier or near the pin you may find it difficult. I had a 96 foot putt on #13. Hard to get near these pins and if you spin the ball like I do then you may find yourself in front with the pin back, or off the front entirely. All in all a fun day and pretty much had it to myself.