Kurt

Is there a problem? I think not in many cases. It's mostly just a matter or one player/group deciding the other is too slow, because they simply want to go faster than the group ahead of them. Let's use the comment below where one stated that they were the second group out and waited on every hole but one and thus the group in front was too slow. Never in the comment does it even indicate how long it took them to play. It could have been three hours for all I know. Let me just say, golfers should have to wait. If you are waiting, that means you are keeping up with the group ahead of you. If you are not waiting, in reality you could be the problem. Most golfers have all decided their pace is the correct pace and that they prefer to be the problem, meaning they don't have to wait, rather than being behind what they consider to be the problem. I would go so far as to say that none of us could even agree on what is proper pace. We just feel it is our pace and anybody slower is a problem and anybody faster by pressing us from behind is a jerk. Because golfers are people and people are egotistical, I pose that we could never even agree on the proper pace of play in golf and thus never solve the pace of play problem as it is really just a bunch of people mad at each other because we have different opinions and all of us think we're right. Is it 4.5, 4.0 or 3.5 hours? Maybe even 3? Maybe it even changes based on how we feel or if we're a twosome or need to get to work?

Ed

Judging by the number of comments slow play is a hot topic. I played a round yesterday, waited for the group in front of us, a foursome, on holes, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18. What happened on 12 you ask, well, we got into a little trouble on 11, when we arrived at 12 tee the group in front had finished the hole, it was clear from tee to green, but then we had to wait on 13 to hit our second shots.

I should point out that the offending group were first out of the gate and there was no one in front of them for the entire round.

Arriving at the club house, I indicated my disappointment at their lack of etiquette with respect to pace of play. There was no acknowledgement, only a few excuses trying to rationalize their slow play and then they concluded that I was inconsiderate and disrespectful for pointing out the errors of their way.

No wonder there is a slow play problem, with attitudes that constantly indicate slow play is the fault of the course design, the management of the course or some other excuse, it will continue and probably get worse.

Time to remove golfers from the course if they cannot maintain a reasonable pace of play.

Damian

In my opinion one of the biggest problems, as a golfer out on the course, is that you have nothing to really gauge your pace of play by, other than the players in front or behind you. It is with this in mind that I've developed a Pace of Play Timer that I believe goes a long way to eliminating any grey area regarding Pace of Play. As far as I am aware, it is the only application available where a golfer can, on any hole, see if he/she is ahead or behind the set pace of play. For those of you that read this post and are interested in finding out more about the Timer, you can do so at ecaddy.co.za/pop

Ron Whalen

I’ve read most of the comments and agree with 99.9%. Why not an article compiling a list of dos and dont’s for efficient play. The first being Cary management and “shared” driving. Next I like the comment about Club in hand. Expand on that one by saying drive with the last club you used and exchange it at the next shot. Another is to play ready golf then help others look for a lost ball. Chances are they will find it before you get there. Enough examples, how about a full list of the tips of do’s and dont’s??

dwc

Just played Shoal Creek (Caddies required) 3 days after the US Women's Open. We played with another couple (we were a three ball) and with the rough still up and wild shots frequently, we still played easily in under four hours. I am convinced that carts have made the game much slower - cart etiquette and pace of play be damned with most groups .

PJ

How many times have you watched a player hit a shot, walk back to the cart and place the club in the bag. Get in the cart proceed to your next shot. If it is on the green well done,park the cart in designated spots or behind the green if no designations are visible. Golf is a game with rhythm and movement Move it

Wayne

Have not done enough to promote Tee it forward. I' m 67 and can still drive 200+ yards and usually play the white tees,.I play at a muni and often play wth gentlemen 75 and over most of whom drive 150 yards or less and insist on using the white tees when gold(senior) tees are present. Let's promote tee it forward

bmather

Two things. Play ready golf. Go to your ball and prepare for your shot. Don't walk with or wait for the other players to play before you move to your ball. Second, place your clubs, walking cart or golf cart on the back side of the green so you walk off towards the next hole rather than leaving thinks in front of the green.

Lanson

GET A LICENSE! I'm serious; get some accreditation from a golf pro after having taken some golf lessons and gone through some discussions on etiquette before you can be allowed on a golf course during peak time. This is the rule in many European countries and would ensure fellow golfers respect the sport and more importantly each others.

Lanson

GET A LICENSE! I'm serious; get some accreditation from a golf pro after having taken some golf lessons and gone through some discussions on etiquette before you can be allowed on a golf course during peak time. This is the rule in many European countries and would ensure fellow golfers respect the sport and more importantly each others.

wfwallace

I never had a lesson. Taught by my Father, who EMPHASIZED a quick pace AND replacing divots AND repairing ball marks. I play to an 11 hcp and despise slow play. Mis-use of carts is a problem, so is "Cart Path Only". Make it a policy at the pro shop to be EMPHATIC about pace of play, and move slower groups aside when they cause a bottleneck. If the paying customer does not like it (after being told pre-round) then give them their money back (pro-rated for holes played. Also at pro shop, get a valid I.D. from EVERY player in EVERY group so the slower players can be identified. A single slowpoke can drag a whole group down.

dwc

Not a bad suggestion, but there are still a lot of experienced golfers out there - especially habitual cart riders - that dawdle.