I travel frequently for work, and play golf whenever I find the time on these trips, which means I often play solo. I actually resent the implication that I would fudge my score for either a vanity or sandbagger handicap. I don't play "mulligans", nor do I award myself any "gimme putts" on the green. I take the required strokes when I hit into a penalty area ( and even though no one is watching, I fix my divots and repair my own ball-marks on the green-and usually 3-4 others that were left un-repaired). I count all my shots simply because it is the ONLY true measure of improving, though, for handicapping purposes I don't go above double on any one hole.Additionally, if I do get paired up with other golfers, how are they supposed to attest to the scores I enter? I realize that there are a lot of golfers who may be less than honest when submitting scores for handicap purposes, but I feel slighted and pissed off at being lumped in with that type by the USGA. I've seen people (groups) cheat in a scramble just to get a $10 pro shop gift certificate, and I don't like the governing bodies to assume that I am one of those people (I refuse to call them Golfers). So, rules being rules, I no longer enter solo rounds, which typically cuts my entered rounds in half.
Agree completely. I would encourage you to keep posting scores digitally. No one will know under what conditions you are posting.
Thank you. That answer is encouraging.P.S. I enjoy your articles on this site, and those of your fellow writers.
I agree with the notion that the purpose of the Handicap System is to level the playing field in groups that wish to compete against one another whilst having a variety of abilities and experiences. That purpose can work if the members within that group have an equal understanding of how that system works as well as a shared attitude to a consistent and honest application to applying the rules of that system. In my small group of seniors, neither one of those situations is present.As a result, those that keep a handicap do it privately(exclusive of this small group) in order to compare themselves with others who are like minded. All well and good, assuming everyone using the system applies the rules in a similar manner. One small problem consistently occurs in my group and it surfaces during the post round reporting over drinks in the lounge.Those that report what they actually shot in the round are being compared to those who report what they will be posting for the purposes of the handicapping system.
To simplify for the individual who gave the double bogey at 90 and triple bogey at 108 he indicated that any thing over a double bogey wouldn’t count but you would add a stroke/s to your score if you got a handicap stroke/s on that hole. If you shot a 7 on a par 4 and it was a 1 stroke handicap hole you would record a 7. If it was a 2 handicap hole and you shot a 8 you would record a 8
My course is semi-private and Par 72 -- so if I shoot Bogey on every hole, I would have a 90 -- if I shoot Double Bogey on every hole, I would have 108 -- if I shoot Triple Bogey on every hole, again I would have 108 because the most I can enter on any one hole is a double bogey. Sorry but I am an old guy and don't think as well as I did when younger, so if I am wrong, please tell me how. Also if I am on a Par 5 and laying 7 on the green, should I just pick up?...because I have to record a 7 on my card anyway??
You didn't mention your handicap. The control is NET double bogey.But you only have to enter the gross hole score. WHS does the rest.
Sorry but I guess I am both old and dumb! In our Golf Canada Handicap System, their PREFERRED system is that we enter our scores HOLE BY HOLE and NOT just one Overall total. … So as an 18 Handicap -- on that Par 5, and I enter an "8".... that score is AUTOMATICALLY backed down to a 7 because at my handicap level, a 7 is the most I can record on any hole -- it dumps down to the 7 EVEN BEFORE I can record my gross on the NEXT hole -- so I STILL don't understand how anyone can be a 40+ handicap -- Am NOT trying to be a "S@#& disturber"...simply trying to understand the new 2020 system!
The Max handicap under the new rules is 54 or 3 shots per hole. The most you can score on any one hole is a NET double bogey which for a 54 handicapper computes to an 8 on a par 3, a 9 on a par 4 and a 10 on a par 5. In other words you add your handicap back to the GROSS double bogey score for each hole to calculate the NET double bogey. Hope this explains.
I was not aware of the Golf Canada details.Just take the WHSFor an initial handicap allocation the player submits 54 holes. The lowest gross of each 18 is taken and the course rating is subtracted. And then a further -2 applied. That will be the initial handicap index. The result could well be over 54. As more scores are returned the index will be reduced if scores are returned with a differential less than the index. Until 20 scores have been returned, the the normal 8/20 kicks in.
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im a uk golfer and am hoping this new system can incentivise the individual golfer that improving and getting a lower handicap is the object of the amateur game !!
not keeping a higher one to walk off with the prizes , something these days with the commercialism available has become a very lucrative to do
especially when these are usually matchplay based or 4 ball betterball with no handicap consequences.
if the new system doesn't deal with these then it will be waste of time generally
If the highest score posted for handicap purposes on an individual hole cannot be greater than double bogey, how does anyone end up with a handicap as high as 54? Shouldn’t it be closer to 36?
The net double bogey limit does not apply when playing for an initial handicap allocation. So gross score only for each hole is used.
Because it's a NET double bogey.
not for initial allocation
I'm with Bob, if the net scores are used to calculate the handicap, you'll never get above 36, right?
Not allowing solo players to post scores is not in the best interest of growing the game. Either inflating or deflating ones handicap would end up having negative consequences for the players. One of the great pleasures in golf is going out alone and enjoying the game and the surroundings.
I always considered a solo round as PRACTICE. Hitting multiple shots and putts is inevitable. imho
If someone is playing on 54 and the average scores 120+ the 4 1/2 hour round has gone out the window, more like 5/6 hour round so I don’t think I’ll be entertaining playing with someone off 54 any time soon!!... When you tell the wife you’ll be home by 3 o’clock and you’re not home till six she’s not going to believe it is she!! lol
Well Roger, even if you choose not to play with a 54 index, those people are out there. Sorry, but new golfers are generally bad golfers--I was one of them not too long ago. Never played in a six hour round, never been the cause of a five hour round, but 120+....oh yes!
One of the concerns I have encountered at our club (400+ members) is the posting of scores remotely (home PC, iPhone or any device connected to the internet) without any documentation (attested scorecard).
Although we know the majority of our and probably most golfers, have the integrity and honesty of not taking advantage of this flaw in the system. There are those few that use it to their advantage to inflate their handicap.
Inflating ur handicap would last one round in our group
The Rule should ask your Mother in Law to sign your single player card. Having a card signed by some stranger you meet on the first tee is akin to being unfaithful to the Wife!