Many NCAA golfers are using push carts in competition, including the DIII Claremont Mudd Scripps college.  (Getty Images) Scott Verplank drives his golf cart down the 18th fairway along side his caddie during the first round of the PGA TOUR Champions Dominion Energy Charity Classic at The Country Club of Virginia on October 20, 2017 in Richmond, Virginia.  (Getty Images)

Ain't no shame in your push-cart game



The 2018 NCAA golf championships wrap up this week in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

And for pretty much the only time on the televised competitive golf calendar, players don't have caddies alongside them.

Instead, many players, both men and women, have been using push carts.

Naturally, some Golf Channel viewers, including pro golfers Harris English and Brittany Lincicome, were taken aback at how the game looks with the trolleys as opposed to caddies or players carrying their own golf bags and took to Twitter.

(By the way, I was reminded on a recent trip to Scotland that the biggest difference between a "push" cart and "pull" cart is the number of wheels: Two-wheelers are pull carts while three wheels, which the St. Andrews Links Trust had on hand, have three. Most of the college players are using push carts.)

The pushback, harmless as it is, is a gentle reminder that while the pro game is aspirational and influential in many ways, their perspectives - on conditions, course setup or pre-shot routines - aren't necessarily the ones amateurs should echo.

On Twitter, many agree that push carts are hardly a sin in the golf world, according to Matt Ginella's poll:

I grew up carrying my bag, but it isn't for everyone, particularly as we age. In fact, some argue that it's detrimental to your game. Titleist Performance Institute published an article on the subject in 2016 that sourced research that said carrying can pose a greater risk to injury of the ankles, back and shoulder. But to be fair, the author also says a "buggy" is the safest way to play golf, which I would only endorse if the round is in scorching heat or on seriously sherpa-like terrain.

"Stand bags" were a relatively new invention when I entered my peak junior golf years in the 1990s and a push cart was never a consideration (The AJGA didn't permit non-motorized carts until 2009). The Ping carry and Hoofer bags remain icons of my youth. But as I enter my mid-30s, I've found myself pining for push carts more and more. In fact, April was the first time I exclusively took a trolley on a golf trip. I used one for all my rounds in St. Andrews (which included two 36-hole days), and loved it.

It makes a lot of sense for a few reasons:

- You can pack more in your golf bag, like rain or cold-weather gear. On golf trips where you pack more balls, snacks, etc., you don't want to unload your bag before every round like you normally would when carrying.

- It's less wear-and-tear on your back, which I've found not only aids your posture in the golf swing but benefits the freshness your feet.

- In the summertime in the South, you won't soak your back full of sweat carrying over your shoulders.

The only downside to a push cart, in my opinion, is if you spray a ball way offline into the dunes, it's best to leave your bag at the edge of the fairway rather than schlep it up uneven wispy dune grass, which can result in some backtracking.

When considering the game is most enjoyed walking, they are a wonderful alternative to motorized golf carts. While I don't yet own a push cart (basically because so much of my golf is played on the road), I do hope to one day invest in one, perhaps a motorized, remote-control model that is so prevalent in the U.K.

So, push carts on TV are hardly a style faux pas. But do you want to know what does look ridiculous? The Champions Tour's policy of pros being allowed to ride carts while caddies must run alongside like wet black Labrador retrievers. At least get the players on a Golfboard or Segway or something.

Scott Verplank


May 30, 2018



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RayLo's avatar
RayLo wrote at 2018-06-09 16:54:34+00:00:

What's important is that people who use these types of carts play 'ready' golf!

It's a fact.

It takes longer for players to walk to their ball than ride in a golf cart.

When they get there, hit the ball!

Sometimes it's better to play your shot while others are searching for another player's ball. You don't need four people to look for a lost ball.

Can't find it in a couple minutes?

Take the penalty and put another ball into play.

It simply doesn't matter how the bag gets carried as long as players are playing 'ready' golf!

Wayne Hawkyard's avatar
Wayne Hawkyard wrote at 2018-06-08 04:32:01+00:00:

It isn't as shameful as having someone else carry your clubs like English and Lincicome

Ralph Gordon's avatar
Ralph Gordon wrote at 2018-06-04 22:04:47+00:00:

I switch from carrying to a pushcart at 64 years young. Not because I could not carry the bag but to give my feet a break. Trust me, the pushcart uses as much energy if not more to get around the course. Great exercise and happier feet.

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Bob shalowitz wrote at 2018-06-04 17:44:46+00:00:

Herbert Strong, outstanding golden age architect designed the superb Canterbury Golf Club in Shaker Heights, Ohio, and has also been credited with inventing the "trolley". So it can't be all bad

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TorreyPinesDad wrote at 2018-06-04 11:37:49+00:00:

Anyone missing walking experience is invited to play with the senior league we joined and a great number who push/pull or carry 6200 yards of challenging terrain at MiddletownCC in Langhorne PA in under 4 hours three times a week. Several 80+ players are very fit and have GREAT games (so do the walkers under 80)! We love pushing, pulling, carrying. Did I say under 4 hours? Yep.

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Jim Stivet wrote at 2018-06-03 20:21:44+00:00:

Golf is a game meant to be walked. I don’t care if you carry or use a cart. Walking is still walking, period. However, due to very bad knees I have to

sometimes ride. It is not an option - ride play/or don’t play. Ugh! This carry/walk or push cart issue is a waste of time and effort. An exercise by the yentas showing their ignorance. Walking is a part of

the game, plain and simple.

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pmhardy wrote at 2018-06-01 15:38:00+00:00:

I wonder how many pros would opt for a cart if they didn't have a caddy to carry their bags. Why doesn't college allow caddies?

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playsgolf@msn.com wrote at 2018-06-01 15:22:44+00:00:

My thoughts have been echoed many times by previous posts, Harris' and Brittany's comments were elitist, condescending, and insulting to people who don't have the luxury of using a caddy. Let them carry an average sized bag, or especially their monster tour bag for a round and see how their back feels afterwards. Do they honestly believe the college players were any less serious or less competitive because they used a push cart??? Is the essence of golf really how you 'look' while playing? Last time I checked, what was REALLY important was enjoying the challenge of using some sticks to get a ball in the hole in as few strokes as possible.

I was disappointed on another level because I have always been a fan, for Harris because he has Bulldog ties, as do I, and I've always liked Brittany's go for broke style and the way she shows her emotions. It's a million to one shot they will read this, but just know the next time you are in contention I won't be rooting for you, you've shown a really bad side that requires a serious and sincere apology, and a change in attitude.

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GinaMe2U@AOL.com wrote at 2018-06-01 14:44:17+00:00:

My daughter is a golfer. She has a permanent post fracture disability affecting her right foot. Bearing wieght over prolonged periods of time, especially on uneven terrain, or having to walk up steep inclines/hills, makes it impossible for her due to severe pain to the point that she starts to limp and at times, can't walk anymore. Add to that, having to carry a very heavy bag filled with men's clubs [that's what she uses], not only results in further exacerbation to her foot, but also causes her severe back pain. She absolutely loves golf, and loves playing in tournaments... but without the use of a push cart, she'd only be able to play par 3 courses, and only if they were on flat terrain. As it is, she can't play in tournaments if there are significant hills/valleys and inclines, unless she is riding - which is rarely allowed. Should she stop playing golf / competing in tournaments because it isn't "cool" to use a push cart or ride [when needed]??? I think not!!! Candidly, players and caddies alike [in competitive and pro golf] should be allowed to ride if they should choose to. Carrying a heavy bag is unhealthy for one's back, no matter what his/her age... Ask any orthopedist! Perhaps all pro golfers should be forced to carry their own bags for the entirety of a 3 - 4 day tournament so they feel the pain their caddies endure before making stupid comments against those who use push carts by [smart] choice and/or medical necessity! Odds are, they wouldn't even last a full round, especially on courses with steep "mountains" and deep "valleys"!

Vince Murphy's avatar
Vince Murphy wrote at 2018-06-01 03:48:51+00:00:

I'm eighty three years of age and if I couldn't use a push cart I wouldn't be playing golf

Ted W's avatar
Ted W wrote at 2018-05-31 22:42:14+00:00:

Very amused at the push cart controvery. Particularly from the pros who carry - wait - sorry, that's the caddy! Get real - the game is to be enjoyed and if you can't carry anymore (pros) then you get a cart or a caddy. Golf is a game played with a ball and various sticks and there is no mark for how you get around the course.

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Dave Sanguinetti wrote at 2018-05-31 21:52:21+00:00:

Being a staunch conservative- who only will play in sportcoat with tie, I believe you should carry you bag balanced on your head to optimize you neck and upper body strength! I also believe in traversing the course at a gentle gallop- ensuring a 2 and 1/2 hour round or less. I also believe in a 2 stroke penalty if you should be found guilty of perspiring. Holy batmobile just care about how they play, PLEASE

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adkskibum wrote at 2018-05-31 21:47:40+00:00:

English and Lincicome should just pipe down, they of course have caddies to carry their bags, wipe down their clubs, wipe their noses, give them yardage, read putts. And OBTW Harris and Brittany, in a couple of years, some of those "push cart" kids will be on the Tours, kicking your butts.

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edberringer wrote at 2018-05-31 21:31:20+00:00:

If I had the cash to hire a caddy every time I hit the links, that would be heaven BUT...I am 70 years old, play 3-4 times per week, always walk and enjoy the game because I do NOT have to lug a bag around...stop being such elitist snobs and recognize the need for many of us to get a little help to maximize our enjoyment of the game.

Charles's avatar
Charles wrote at 2018-05-31 21:00:32+00:00:

I recently purchased a push cart because I wanted a work out and not just ride a motorized cart. It is tough to push a card in 90 + heat. But i enjoy it but exhausted after 18 holes. It feels good afterwords and it makes me thing about my shots as I traverse the terrain between holes. I do enjoy the motorized carts when I occasionally use them, but then again I do pay a fee for the card! Otherwise i pay nothing other than my club membership each month. I save $17 each time I push my cart and play over 16 times per month. Sure,, I realize that I need to yeil to players with motorized carts as a courtesy when they catch up to me-no problem. I love to pay golf and stay healthy. There is not cardio workout riding the motorized carts. Players are deluding themselves if they think they are really working out riding around in cards! Recreational golfers who are cart pushers are tough! Push on guys and women! -CE from Texas.

Don's avatar
Don wrote at 2018-05-31 20:51:45+00:00:

Tell the pampered pros to carry their own bag and cut the caddy. See how long before they use carts.

Thinh Tran's avatar
Thinh Tran wrote at 2018-05-31 19:31:49+00:00:

The problem is the golf bag itself. Pushcart, riding cart, segway, shoulder, one way or another, you have to haul it around on and off the course. I spent my last 8+ years inventing and perfecting a bag and cart hybrid called the “transrover”. I believe it is the best solution to facilitate and carry your golf gear. Please check it out at Transrover.com and let me know your thoughts.

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tom wrote at 2018-05-31 18:31:00+00:00:

Can't believe the pro's are piping in and bad mouthing pull or push carts when they don't even carry their own clubs..gutless!!

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belthar wrote at 2018-05-31 16:51:37+00:00:

First of all, I have to say how marvelously out of touch these professional golfers are. Sure, they carried their own bag once, when they were amateurs. And they proved how manly they were. Of course, now, they can pay somebody to carry their bag, so it matters not one iota what they think about how other golfers, especially the top amateur players, get their golf clubs around the course. It's just elitist snobbery for any of them to even comment on it. But I guess the point to this post is to call out the one person who commented who was the most offensive, Brittany Lincicome. I know, she added the "lol" and "haha" to her post, so she can argue that it was just a joke. But I'm not sure who should be the most offended by what she said. There are the young men, who she is obviously calling out for being weak. But there are far deeper implications about women golfers. By using the words "especially the guys", she seems to be implying that it would be understandable for a woman to use a pull cart, because, you know, they are weaker than men. If I were an amateur woman golfer, who couldn't afford to pay a caddie to carry my clubs, but don't want to tire myself out by lugging them around myself, I would be deeply offended by this statement. I think she owes the entire golfing world apologies. One for the men for her dig, one for the woman for pointing implying they are less capable than men, and one for every golfer for ridiculing something that is not just a good idea, but also a necessity for a lot of golfers just so they can continue to play the game they love.

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Marino Fuentes wrote at 2018-05-31 18:29:13+00:00:

100% for pull carts, I carry sometimes and shoulders get tight. Too many stigmas coming from pros that never carry themselves, so they did once years ago, so what!!

Don's avatar
Don wrote at 2018-05-31 20:11:31+00:00:

Several of these golfers have career earnings of over $10 million. Lancicone herself has made $8,494,570.

She would probably endorse the pros riding carts also. Their opinions are useless.

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frank cichon wrote at 2018-05-31 16:26:25+00:00:

Tour player cutting up push carts. Looks good on TV when "The Best Players in The World" have their caddy read the greens for them or stand behind them to make sure that they are aiming at their target. I thought golf was an individual sport. At times it seems The Golden Child is afraid to hit his shot until Michael says ... Trust me it is OK to hit now.

Thinh Tran's avatar
Thinh Tran wrote at 2018-05-31 19:39:03+00:00:

Everything is so phony these days. They scour the course with a range finder/sky caddie to get their yardages before each tournament. But when the camera is on, it’s all about the yardage book and pacing out markers. So hypocritical!!!

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Mike M wrote at 2018-05-31 16:09:03+00:00:

Some of the traditions of golf are ridiculous. Kind of reminds me of the "old timers" in many scenarios ranging from new cars or office technology today. They usually start off by saying " Back in my day we didn't have AC or touch screens in the car...., a printer that could scan or make copies...." These are people who are actually jealous of the technology advances that they are degrading. What they really mean is "If I would have had that back in my day... I could have...." Back in the real old days, the pros wore suits and ties and thick pants and women wore dresses! But today they would never do that because they don't have to. They also guessed at yardages and elevations etc.... Today we have technology to help make the game more precise. I say let's use everything we can get to make the game funner for the player as well as the spectator. Growing golf will never happen as long as people stick to the past and hang onto stupid rules like pro's need to wear pants and caddies can't ride in a cart with their aging pros. Hell, give the caddies electric walking carts! Would a guy like Arnie or Lee Trevino want to lose his precious caddie because he got too old to carry the big bag anymore? Of course not, and neither would we as spectators want to lose the ability to watch those 2 interact in their later years. Grow the game!

Thinh Tran's avatar
Thinh Tran wrote at 2018-05-31 19:41:46+00:00:

You spoke my mind...thank you.

Pieter's avatar
Pieter wrote at 2018-05-31 14:56:47+00:00:

At the age of 76 I am still enjoying walking and pulling my own cart. It keeps me fit. It irritates me when youngsters and still capable players are driving around with cards and the players walking must always make way for them to pass.

Is playing golf to see how fast or is it for the exercise. No problem riding if it is the only way to get around the course.

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uvalde51 wrote at 2018-05-31 14:39:09+00:00:

I started playing as a kid in the early sixties. Everybody walked but most of the adult men and women used a pull cart. I carried my clubs until I hit my fifties. I switched to a push cart to ease the strain on my lower back and haven't gone back. I find it odd that tour pros would be critical of the use of carts. I'm sure if they had to lug that logo blanketed staff bag around the course they would be interested in pushing a cart. My only criticism of the NCAAs is, as somebody else mentioned, pace of play. These kid are modeling the tour pros with the time they take to play some shots.

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John wrote at 2018-05-31 13:55:58+00:00:

Makes me laugh that the poo poo pro golfers chide the pull push carts. They probably never carry their clubs anymore even to their cars!

There’s a strain of ultra conservatism still in golf that is irritating to many golfers. I think there should be options to getting around the golf course. When I grew up, golf carts were not nearly as prevalent as they are in today’s game for a variety of reasons. Let the golfer decide. I want to ride my mountain bike to move me around 18 holes of golf but the thought of allowing bikes on the course is blasphemous to the staunch protectors of the game. Using a bike is fast paced, good exercise, and environmentally friendly. Using a bike to get around makes GOLF a Game Of Logistics Fun. But I am sure Brittany and Harris would poo poo that idea, too.

Let the golfer decide and stop judging their method. Nobody’s wrong walking, riding, pushing, pulling, or pedaling!

Matt's avatar
Matt wrote at 2018-05-31 14:13:46+00:00:

Well said John. Enough with the stigmas. Let's all just go out and enjoy the game no matter what our preferred transport method is. I switch between power carts (some courses are set up for riding) and push cart as I like to walk the course. What's most important is that we are all playing the game (and hopefully at a good pace of play).

Thinh Tran's avatar
Thinh Tran wrote at 2018-05-31 19:45:01+00:00:

Looks like they all can use a transrover. :)

Scott's avatar
Scott wrote at 2018-05-31 13:54:18+00:00:

Agreed with those who are pushing back against the hot shot pros who are critical of the use of pull carts. How hypocritical when they have caddies full time! Oh brother.

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jorge bull wrote at 2018-05-31 13:47:29+00:00:

The real game of golf was meant to be walking.The real exercise is by walking and swinging.I do even play barefoot to do earthing or grounding.Holistic golf shall be explored by everyone at least a couple of times monthly.

gene's avatar
gene wrote at 2018-05-31 13:47:16+00:00:

How theses pros don't understand that a push/ pull cart keeps golf affordable and fun is beyond me!!

Robert Lain's avatar
Robert Lain wrote at 2018-05-31 13:35:10+00:00:

I feel walking is a great way to enjoy any round of golf. Using a push/pull cart is a great way to enjoy the game and experience a good work-out. At 86 years old I still enjoy the walk using a push/pull cart. The walk lets me have to think about the next shot and really see the course while enjoying the exercise. I can keep up with the motorize carts making I do not hold other goplfers up

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G0lfer wrote at 2018-05-31 13:19:27+00:00:

Carts rule. Golf, exercise without wear and tear.

JT's avatar
JT wrote at 2018-05-31 13:14:52+00:00:

When I was younger I carried, then gradually switched to pull & then to push carts. They are essentially better in my opinion, less stress, you can pack more (rain gear, ball retriever, snax, etc.). As we get older & you still want to walk the cart is the way to go. There are some courses where you do need a motorized cart. As Professional Players their lies the difference (nice pace slower tempo, because thousands if not millions are at stake for PGA & LPGA players).

The amateur has a choice, choose whatever feels right, but when age hits you I assure you, you will make a change. I have been playing for over 35 years & for me at my age (over 62) a sunny day, my clubs, & pull cart are the way 2 Go. P.S. the umbrella attachment is also an added plus. Enjoy Life, Music, Sunny days, and Beautiful Manicured Fairways.

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Joe Trupo wrote at 2018-05-31 13:00:58+00:00:

Yeah for the walkers— push, pull or carry ! I wish I still had the ambition and the energy to play the game the way.it was intended—

Jim Earley's avatar
Jim Earley wrote at 2018-05-31 13:00:44+00:00:

So silly. Golf is desperately trying to expand the game and then pick on walkers with carts. It makes golf healthy and affordable. Get over yourself.

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Ed Olsen wrote at 2018-05-31 13:50:08+00:00:

Amen!

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Tom Harack wrote at 2018-05-31 12:51:11+00:00:

As an avid squash player in my younger days, I was subject to the occasional excruciating, debilitating back spasm. My chiropractor helped immensely; she also told me NEVER to carry my clubs when I played golf. I still like to walk, so have used a push cart ever since. Gotta wonder if our constant lament about declining levels of participation in the game isn't related to pros' comments above.

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Jim Rydzel wrote at 2018-05-31 12:32:38+00:00:

Spent 5 weeks in Scotland last summer. Played 21 rounds and used a trolley for every round except Old Course. Saw nearly all of the locals with their own trolleys, many battery powered. No one there gave a thought that trolleys were unacceptable--to the contrary, buggies were the exception. Can't believe the nerve of this handful of pros insulting trolley users.

Scott's avatar
Scott wrote at 2018-05-31 13:51:44+00:00:

Yes, me too. In Scotland I used a caddy some days, the other days I rented a power push cart mostly the powakaddy brand. I liked it so much I bought one! They're excellent and I can walk just about any course and get a good walk in while playing the game I love. I was able to play old course as well, but carts weren't allowed so I had a caddy, which was awesome.

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Marv Stammen wrote at 2018-05-31 12:03:41+00:00:

The pros bad mouthing pull carts is the most asinine thing I have heard lately. It is common knowledge using pull carts are a healthier than carrying your bag, they encourage walking instead of riding, they are less damaging to the golf course than riding in a cart, and you can carry more accessories than carrying, and last but not least, they can reduce fatigue which can result in better play. It can make the game more fun for all ages of players. Pros should be encouraging the use of carts to help promote the game. If you want to carry great, but the last thing pros should be doing is bad mouthing something connected with game that is positive from so many dimensions. One more item. Pros are not helping the game with pace of play by the incredibly slow pace they play on tv. Slow play is destroying the game. I and my wife are very avid golfers, but I can’t tell you how frustrated we have become at the pace of play at so many golf courses we play.

Ed's avatar
Ed wrote at 2018-05-31 11:01:25+00:00:

Anybody that pays big bucks for somebody to carry their bag for them needs to keep their mouth shut

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Carlos Garcia wrote at 2018-05-31 10:44:45+00:00:

Why Harris and Brittany don’t carry their bags on Tour? Push or Pull carts should be mandatory in Junior golf

Allen T's avatar
Allen T wrote at 2018-05-31 07:56:23+00:00:

If you love to play golf then do it whatever way it suits. When young I could carry my bag for 36 holes. I'm now 81 and even though its expensive, if I can't book a buggy I can't play golf. I always share the buggy with someone of similar age and because of the speed we travel, we never hold up the players behind. So it solves a double purpose.

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Proud Trolley Pusher wrote at 2018-05-31 07:53:16+00:00:

Any wonder courses continue to close and the game is dying? The "pros" are the reason. Not just for practical reasons like pace of play, health is far improved with trolleys when compared with hoofing. Trolleys (both mechanical and automated) have been used for decades abroad and encourage walking. I have used them for decades, even when young, and have found the positives far outweigh any negatives, including the outlandish hypocritical "pros" perceptions. Any wonder I and many other serious golfers don't watch "professional" golf any longer - they're not only arrogant but out of touch with reality.

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Merv wrote at 2018-05-31 06:31:15+00:00:

What's wrong with an electric trolley?.Nearly all my co-players use them..Far better to use them than motorised carts which compact and damage the fairways.Walking the courses keeps you fit and gives to time to think about your next shot.

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Allan wrote at 2018-05-31 04:55:00+00:00:

Why are the numbers and interest in the game down? This is why: tradition and arrogance. Young people don’t care about that. The world has moved on, get over it. Just enjoy this wonderful game however you choose to play it, or it will die and I will miss it.

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Larry E Olson wrote at 2018-05-31 04:13:42+00:00:

What hypocrisy!! The PROS, who have caddies carrying their clubs and equipment, have the audacity to put down pull carts? Get a layman's life you coddled wooses!

Scott's avatar
Scott wrote at 2018-05-31 13:55:22+00:00:

Amen, well said!

Frank's avatar
Frank wrote at 2018-05-31 04:05:39+00:00:

Tell HarrisxEnglish to get a life

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Randy Kitts wrote at 2018-05-31 03:37:53+00:00:

Really Harris and Britney, I've been playing the game for 40 years. I used to carry,which you guys don't do,and now am 66 years old with a chronic back. The push cart allows me to walk and still play the game I love! Get off your eliteist high horses and take the silver spoons out of your mouths and help promote the game!

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breckhockey18 wrote at 2018-05-31 03:02:13+00:00:

When I played with a "push cart", I carried 8 sand/seed bottles to fill divots. At the 10th tee, I would exchange 8 empty bottles for 8 full sand/seed mix bottles. How many sand/seed bottles do you see a person carrying their bag carry? ZERO.

I also played most of my golf in heavy dew and push carts keep your bag & clubs dry.

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Cliff wrote at 2018-05-31 02:54:14+00:00:

Wow. I was reading and can't believe how many elitists are paying complaining about these pros yet complain that real golfers only walk the course and don't use carts. Would love to see these people even attempt to play at all if they were in my shoes.

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breckhockey18 wrote at 2018-05-31 02:45:26+00:00:

Don't forget raking bunkers & replacing divots. Can you image how many bunkers would be poorly raked if the pros had to do do their own raking? I would love to see a tour player begging for a ruling because his ball is in a heel print in a bunker.

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JonW wrote at 2018-05-31 01:53:11+00:00:

Dear Brittany, Harris & Brian, your game, the game that 'we the fan, Joe Q. Public sees is an aberration today, not the norm. Therefore your priveleged and elitist opinions are also an aberration. What we see of the college game is what every other golfer on the planet will experience when they play for recreation. Most, if not all of golf's governing organizations have a primary mandate to grow the game. I would challenge these 3 'pros' to play ALL of their private AND professional rounds of golf for a sesson without the use of their caddies in any capacity, and then report back to the golf world what their 'feelings' are afterwards. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy watching the pros play, but I do so knowing that it's not an accurate portrayal of the game of golf we all love so much. Not to mention that they are incredibly SLOW and would get run off of even the lowliest goat track for holding up play and driving away other paying customers.

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Sinicall wrote at 2018-05-31 01:45:10+00:00:

Unfortunately some "professional" golfers tend to forget from whence they came. On the other, perhaps English and Lincicome are from that group who have been pampered their entire golfing lives by those around them. In either case, both should concentrate on their games, instead of passing judgement, as I haven't seen their names on many leader boards in quite sometime.

Mike's avatar
Mike wrote at 2018-05-31 01:44:18+00:00:

I caddied doubles in my teens and still carry my bag in my 70's. I do it because I can. I can because I do it.

Joe.juan's avatar
Joe.juan wrote at 2018-05-31 03:16:16+00:00:

So good for you, superman. I have a piece of kryptonite in my bag. Please announce the day when you stopped carrying sand bottle.

Bernt Ersson's avatar
Bernt Ersson wrote at 2018-05-31 04:40:09+00:00:

Well, lucky you. I am 67. I always carried my bag until 3 years ago when I had a hernia and the arthritis in my right hip started giving me problems with pain. My hernia was operated. After starting with a push cart all my pain went away (no operation needed so far), and I still walk my 4-5 rounds of golf every week.

Rob Wright's avatar
Rob Wright wrote at 2018-05-31 01:44:17+00:00:

Some of us are no longer able to carry our bags over 18 holes and don’t play well enough to make lots of money playing or to get endorsements for having company logos plastered all over our clothes, so get over yourselves

John Easton 's avatar
John Easton wrote at 2018-05-31 01:42:18+00:00:

I am more incensed about slow play in the NCAA tournament and the presence of coaches acting as caddies which slows play to a crawl.

KO's avatar
KO wrote at 2018-05-31 01:34:53+00:00:

I would love to bring Brittany and Harris to work with me for 10 hours working on heavy equipment in 100 degree heat and laugh cause im using a push cart cause im trying to get a round in when i get off. I’m pretty sure they would be getting a massage instead of a round of golf.

Steve's avatar
Steve wrote at 2018-05-31 01:26:28+00:00:

Wonder if Brittany could even carry a bag for 9 holes, let alone 7 straight 18 hole rounds. Like to see how she would play golf when she reaches the age of 75. In a cart for sure..

Dave Erismann's avatar
Dave Erismann wrote at 2018-05-31 01:12:41+00:00:

I have always used a pull or push cart. It has always seemed to be a convenient way to play. I don't believe that golf was meant to be an 'ironman' or endurance test. I admit that it does look different compared to the pros who are playing for large dollars and have additional advantages. But so is the level of play.

Tim Callins's avatar
Tim Callins wrote at 2018-05-31 00:58:50+00:00:

What I can’t take seriously is all these big strong pros never even picking a bag up! They have to have a caddy (who helps them read greens and distances) carry it all. Let’s see a tournament where the pros carry their own bags for once!

Rick 's avatar
Rick wrote at 2018-05-31 00:52:49+00:00:

Not sure I can remember a PGA tour pro carrying his bag, especially Brian Harmen

Scott's avatar
Scott wrote at 2018-05-31 13:57:34+00:00:

B Harman's bag is bigger than he is

Glenn Procter 's avatar
Glenn Procter wrote at 2018-05-31 00:49:27+00:00:

Harris English and Britney and that’s a calm can kiss my ass! I don’t make millions of dollars and can afford to have somebody on retainer to write my bag around and with a bad shoulder carrying it takes it’s toll. I’ve been to Scotland and Ireland and when I was there the rounds I didn’t have a caddy I carried but when I play at home if I walk or use my pushcart. Get over it

Murphmeister's avatar
Murphmeister wrote at 2018-05-31 00:49:23+00:00:

I carried my own bag until 58. When I was 15 I caddied doubles. College snow flakes.

Lynn's avatar
Lynn wrote at 2018-05-31 00:45:52+00:00:

I am 70 years old and use a pull cart because to carry my bag would literally kill my back

Fred's avatar
Fred wrote at 2018-05-31 00:45:46+00:00:

There are of course tracks that you just can't walk, namely Wolf Creek in Mesquite, NV.

Only thing I may disagree with is mixing electric trollies with walkers. IMHO, it hoses up pace of play. Walk or ride s/b choice of golfer.

W's avatar
W wrote at 2018-05-31 00:42:09+00:00:

Let's ban caddies on the PGA tour so the pros can carry their own bags, make unassisted club selections and read their own putts. We'll see how long that lasts. This kind of rhetoric points out the egotistical elitist attitude that gives golf a bad name. Akin to kneeling for National Anthem in the NFL.

Thomas B's avatar
Thomas B wrote at 2018-05-31 02:40:35+00:00:

Don't forget raking bunkers & replacing divots. Can you image how many bunkers would be poorly raked if the pros had to do do their own raking? I would love to see a tour player begging for a ruling because his ball is in a heel print in a bunker.

Kenneth Smith's avatar
Kenneth Smith wrote at 2018-05-31 00:39:22+00:00:

i grew up in Westchester , New York, in a modest family and became the first golfer in my family at the age of 14 years old, shagging balls @ Blind Brook Country Club, to make spending money to underwrite my newly found passion for the game of golf. From my humble beginnings, I earned enough money to pay for my college degree and eventually graduated with a certification in school psychology which I never followed through with among other choices! I am 70 years old today and proud to say that golf has been my focus and discipline to be a successful marketing professional and the proud father of my only son who is a major CEO who has given me five grandchildren who will all find their own dicipline going forward. Golf is the template for a focus in the way of life and has served me well over these many years!!!

Jack 's avatar
Jack wrote at 2018-05-31 01:10:46+00:00:

I caddied there too. My Unclt Stanley was the caddy master. Learned to play the game while hitting golf balls next to the range while waiting to make a loop and playing on caddies day.

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BrandonTuckerGA Staff wrote at 2018-05-31 01:47:54+00:00:

Sounds like a wonderful journey Kenneth. Thanks for sharing.

judkast's avatar
judkast wrote at 2018-05-31 00:36:13+00:00:

No shame to pull carts. Anyway to get out there on the links is all that should matter. If you are worried on what people think - go see a shrink, because what does it matter?

Tom Bell's avatar
Tom Bell wrote at 2018-05-31 00:31:58+00:00:

Sorry to say, Harris and Brittany, your comments smack of snobbish elitism. I am 71 and over the years I have used push and pull carts and have carried. In the later years that I carried I developed a pinched nerve in my neck which is not fun. Here in Canada I now use a motorized bag caddy and love it. I love to walk the course and believe I play better doing so. I am also a member of a course at my winter home in Florida, River Hall Country Club, where you must either use one of their Golf Carts or carry, so I am stuck riding. They say that push carts are not traditional, but it is really about the income that comes from Golf Cart rentals, and i believe it is discriminatory especially to seniors.

Janet's avatar
Janet wrote at 2018-05-31 00:31:16+00:00:

I'm approaching 40 years of golf. I tried to carry as first husband said it was a step saver. It hurt my back so much I was done after about 4 holes - so pull cart if was. (Mine used to have a little flip down seat for slow rounds and hot days.) Our course is fairly flat on the front and 'mountain goat' on the back. After first knee surgery I was forced to ride, and still do. However - what I miss is the comradery chit-chat of a group walking down the fairway. Many seniors at our club still walk the front with push-pull carts for the exercise and ride the back. I'd love to again.

Greg's avatar
Greg wrote at 2018-05-31 00:23:43+00:00:

I always use a push cart on courses that allow it. I feel a play a better game. At 72 I marvel at a young 300 lb person in a motor cart.

Cliff's avatar
Cliff wrote at 2018-05-31 02:42:36+00:00:

Don't marvel too much. Just another elitist remark. I'm only 52 and have no option but to ride due to problems all up and down my spine. My neck is fused from c2 down to t1 and still require surgery on my lumbar in a couple of months then my right hip replaced after that, so most doctors are amazed I can even play the game at all. So please don't judge so quickly.

Rick Egan's avatar
Rick Egan wrote at 2018-05-31 00:21:23+00:00:

You don't see the push carts on tv, but I see them where ever I play golf. Golf course owners would rather you ride. But, if you enjoy walking a cart could make your round more enjoyable. Too bad these pros have forgotten their roots.

Bob Ackerman's avatar
Bob Ackerman wrote at 2018-05-31 00:11:01+00:00:

I trust that nobody who regularly uses an electric or gas-powered cart is criticizing people who use a pull-cart or push-cart. At least they're walking the course!

Fred's avatar
Fred wrote at 2018-05-31 00:32:30+00:00:

Totally agree, Bob! I am just too old and broken in places to carry anymore which I use to when younger.

Tom Dunlop's avatar
Tom Dunlop wrote at 2018-05-31 01:32:21+00:00:

Agree, Bob.

David's avatar
David wrote at 2018-05-31 15:32:00+00:00:

I certainly was not, Bob. My grandfather used to say (and I think he stole it from A. A. Milne), "Everybody to their own taste, said the old lady as she bent over and kissed the cow." I subscribe to that premise as long as nobody else is being harmed in the process.

David Long's avatar
David Long wrote at 2018-05-31 00:03:03+00:00:

At 77 years old and trying to avoid major left hip surgery (swinging the club produces no pain) without a motorized "riding cart" my golf days would be over. If we wish to allow all "non-pros" to continue playing and stop our beloved sport from its continuing demise we need to be more concerned with maintaining and growing it than with how the clubs (and the golfer) get from hole to hole & tee to green.

ravingdog's avatar
ravingdog wrote at 2018-05-31 00:16:06+00:00:

well said

J's avatar
J wrote at 2018-05-30 23:58:36+00:00:

Lame. Last thing golf needs is to continue pushing old elitest ‘rules’ that ypu have to ‘look’ a certain way while playing.

camille 's avatar
camille wrote at 2018-05-30 23:51:17+00:00:

Come on people its 2018 and we as golfers have evolved. Pull and Push carts are a necessity for competitors who are carrying extra gear in their bag as well as sufficient hydration and food to keep us nourished. Most courses are between 5 and 7 miles and believe me pushing a cart is not always easier than carrying. I push all the time and sometimes I feel as if I am pushing a small baby carriage around a golf course with me. It should be a personal preference and should not be frowned upon anyone who wants to improve their game, especially if they're not a paid athlete!

Terry's avatar
Terry wrote at 2018-05-30 23:50:00+00:00:

I was a caddy for eight years while growing up in Ohio. At age eight I was no strong enough to carry my dad’s pro bag and I pulled his bag on a cart . Without that pull cart I would have not been able to spend every Saturday and Sunday with my best friend- my dad ! Golf is a more enjoyable game while walking versus riding in a motorized cart . Pull carts are a great way to enjoy golf.

Jon's avatar
Jon wrote at 2018-05-30 23:41:35+00:00:

I take nothing serious that comes from the mouth if spoiled PGA pros. They rarely if ever carry their own bag. If I were king, caddies at PGA level would be banned. They've become far more than just a human bag carrier - they're an on course coach, psychologist, etc. These current pros, with just a few exceptions, don't seem to be able to do anything for themselves during a round of golf.

They don't like the looks of push carts? Scr3w them. No wonder I don't watch golf anymore.

Randy Roberts's avatar
Randy Roberts wrote at 2018-05-30 23:40:15+00:00:

As a teaching professional at the First Tee of Greater Akron. Ohio, we always have our students walk when they play golf, as well as our PGA Junior league participants. On a personal note - for many years while playing on a Sunday morning traveling golf league, myself and my best friend were the only 2 of 60 + players that walked and carried our bags. On most holes we would be waiting on the green for our 2 playing partners as they had to drive to each ball and we just went to each of ours and played on. Where the power carts were useful is when the distance between a green and the next hole was extensive. I watched many of these college players (male and female) walk and either carry or use trolleys while playing in tournaments each spring in Hilton Head (Darius Rucker Collegiate Invitational to name one) and it is always enjoyable to walk along side the players, speak with them and listen to their choices with their coaches.

Peter's avatar
Peter wrote at 2018-05-30 23:36:07+00:00:

As Hank Haney says it's alright for the pro's who have a caddie carrying their bags. Some of us can't afford a caddie or a motorised buggy. Looking forward to watching Mr English playing in a comp and carrying his own bag as he gets older.

Dave's avatar
Dave wrote at 2018-05-30 23:31:03+00:00:

A good walk in the park spoiled by motorized junk. Push cart or pull, walking is the name of the game and there is a place for the drink bottle and umbrella with no sore back. Only an idiot would have a problem with that.

Bruce Stuck's avatar
Bruce Stuck wrote at 2018-05-30 23:27:23+00:00:

I'm for pull carts (even motorized) and walking. it's nice to have all you clubs by your side. Most now are fascinated by the GPS and USB equipped golf cart. Some even show you where other golfers are on the course. The big deterrent to walking is new golf course typically built in an upscale, "planned," housing development where the distance from the green to the next tee box is astronomically long. That deters walker and causes pace of play issues with walkers and pull-cart users.

David's avatar
David wrote at 2018-05-30 23:26:22+00:00:

I would love to see more clubs go to walking only.

Richard's avatar
Richard wrote at 2018-05-30 23:51:00+00:00:

Love to hear what you think when you're also 80 and still want to play golf

David's avatar
David wrote at 2018-05-31 00:19:28+00:00:

Well I am hoping to be still walking at 80 like my father. He carried a Sunday bag, 7-8 clubs, 3 balls in his back pocket, tees in one front pocket and ball repair tool & marker in the other.

Cliff's avatar
Cliff wrote at 2018-05-31 02:50:34+00:00:

Would love to see you walk when you are considered 100% disabled. I'm just happy I can still play the game and guess I wouldn't be welcome at your course if you made up the rules.

Mitch Wiese 's avatar
Mitch Wiese wrote at 2018-05-30 23:22:02+00:00:

Sure have the old establishment keep people from playing golf. What will they say about motorized golf boards

Rick's avatar
Rick wrote at 2018-05-30 23:19:43+00:00:

Really don’t see the backlash of using push/pull carts. Although I much prefer push carts. I carried from high school through college and beyond. Pushing is a great walk, plus you have of accessories you can take with you,

Dan's avatar
Dan wrote at 2018-05-30 23:17:05+00:00:

Let’s be real. Taking the golf car out is all about the revenue to the club. Given a choice any “real” golfer will walk as long as their legs allow. Push carts are the bomb.

Bren Follett's avatar
Bren Follett wrote at 2018-05-30 23:16:29+00:00:

Really great to hear these comments from Butch Harmon And Hank Haney who are so respected in the golf world

SL's avatar
SL wrote at 2018-05-30 23:14:26+00:00:

Rich elitists with paid servants to carry their bags making fun of guys using pull carts? What a bunch of sorry #@&&(3$.

VP's avatar
VP wrote at 2018-05-30 23:11:50+00:00:

Golf is a game to be enjoyed. Whether you ride, push, pull or carry. Rounds are down so let’s not push an enlist view that the only way to play is to carry.

eddieop's avatar
eddieop wrote at 2018-05-30 23:09:18+00:00:

at 62 +, pushing a trolley kept me playing! not playing better, but playing.

David's avatar
David wrote at 2018-05-30 23:24:50+00:00:

Get yourself a battery powered 3 wheeler. I'm 70 and am using a CartTek 975li. And I'm still keeping a 6-7 handicap. No pushing or pulling up the hills and I can turn the speed down so slow that I can walk faster going down hill. Without it I would have to quit playing when the temp gets above 75 and I live in Alabama.

Richard McCullough's avatar
Richard McCullough wrote at 2018-05-30 23:09:08+00:00:

The game was meant to be played walking, whether your bag is on a "trolley" or carrying the bag doesn't matter. If you play in the old country, you'll never see golf carts unless you are on your death bed. Unlike in America, where golf courses are set up for golf carts (have to have that revenue, and we are lazy).

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Butch Harmon wrote at 2018-05-30 22:50:20+00:00:

Why would Brittany Lincicome say "especially the guys, haha"??? Does she not realize how sexist that is. If you can't say it about a woman Brittany, you can't say it about a man. Your double standard is typical of women. Now that I've gotten that off of my chest, what on earth is wrong with push carts? The elitist attitude that one must carry their bag to be a "serious" golfer is exactly what is wrong with golf and one of the reasons that the game is dying.

Lee's avatar
Lee wrote at 2018-05-30 23:08:44+00:00:

Please, the comment was made in humor.

Bren Follett's avatar
Bren Follett wrote at 2018-05-30 23:11:59+00:00:

Right on Butch. Really good to hear these comments from someone as respected as you in the golf world. Some others are too elitist about things related to golf. Golf is a great game and for probably 90% of us golfers, we do it for enjoyment only! Thanks Butch!

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Mark Schuberg wrote at 2018-05-30 23:13:01+00:00:

It's not sexist to recognize the truth. Men are stronger on average than women. Denying that men and women are different is just nuts. Long live double standards! By the way, I love push carts - helps my bad back.

Jim's avatar
Jim wrote at 2018-05-30 22:18:56+00:00:

I recently switched from my 40 year-old pull cart to a new one click push cart. Amazing. My back pain cleared up in two weeks. It is a new experience. Sometimes I still pull !

dbaudoin 's avatar
dbaudoin wrote at 2018-05-30 21:57:48+00:00:

why is using a push cart any different than having a caddy carry your bag?

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Hank Haney wrote at 2018-05-30 22:57:44+00:00:

It is the height of hypocrisy for pro golfers, who have another person carrying their bag while they walk down the course eating and socializing with other pros, to disparage people who use push carts for their own clubs.

Bren Follett's avatar
Bren Follett wrote at 2018-05-30 23:15:03+00:00:

Hear hear Hank! Nice to hear this from as respected as you in the golf world!

KZ's avatar
KZ wrote at 2018-05-30 21:57:15+00:00:

It sure would be nice to have a caddie carry our clubs, but us amateurs just can't afford the luxury that like the pro do. To down grade the average player for using them is very cheap blow. If you didn't have us who would go to watch you play at tournaments to help support you winnings?

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Duane830 wrote at 2018-05-30 21:54:31+00:00:

In the 50"s, that is 1950's, my dad would play on Sunday mornings with about 30 other guys. They were probably all in their 30's and in great shape. These gentlemen all used pull carts at the time. I played high school golf in the 60's and everyone on the team as well as all of the players in the district, carried their clubs. I carried my clubs until I was 50. The family purchased and strongly suggested that a push cart should be used by someone my age. Most days I walk with my push cart, however some courses require you to take a motorized cart. The 10 years I was a member of a private club, we had caddies and before noon, you were required to use a caddie and that was great. However, at the public courses I now play at, caddies are not available. I definitely find the carts appropriate, especially if playing more than 18 holes.

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BuckeyeLefty wrote at 2018-05-30 21:27:10+00:00:

I am very disappointed that professional golfers would take this stance in mocking users of push carts. I am 71 years old and always prefer to walk and carried until the few years ago when I switched to push carts. If I had a caddy who took care of everything for me and lugged my bag is wouldn't be so critical. As a matter of fact after watching the NCAA tournaments the past 2 weeks maybe professional golf should ban caddies. Let the players take care of their clubs and get their own yardages.

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barouhlaw wrote at 2018-05-30 21:15:34+00:00:

I love the walk on the course. My back can't handle carrying a bag for 5 hours. Should I just quit the game? Of course not.

A cart promotes health and adds an exercise element to the game. Keep the carts and promote more use of them.

jc's avatar
jc wrote at 2018-05-30 21:15:13+00:00:

what would be good? a pro event with no caddie, no pull carts, no riding carts, no yardage books, no green books...let's see who can actually get a distance without 10 people staffs. we might give them a 150 pole in the rough. and make it a hilly course and they have to wait for the cart girl to come around to get a drink.

Dan Roads's avatar
Dan Roads wrote at 2018-05-30 21:14:58+00:00:

A bit of hypocrisy in this thread. I’m 70 and walk at least 50 roounds a year with my push cart. I would think the pros would understand this since they don’t carry their own clubs and furthermore would in the interest of the game do anything to encourage more people to play.

Pauly's avatar
Pauly wrote at 2018-05-30 21:10:42+00:00:

Garbage...carrying is for cheap idiots and push carts are for losers...load up the electric cart with the cooler, the bluetooth speaker, the ipad (for the NFL during the season), the weed and the giant 28 club staff bag and hit the first tee

BrandonTuckerGA's avatar
BrandonTuckerGA Staff wrote at 2018-05-30 21:11:58+00:00:

I'm cracking up because I was just at Willie Nelson's Cut 'n Putt where that is basically what everyone does. There is a 20-some that plays every Saturday. each has their own cart.

jc's avatar
jc wrote at 2018-05-30 21:12:20+00:00:

I HATE it when somebody HAS to have his cell phone on so he can hear 80s rock and you hear the same 10 songs 5 times in one round....

Pauly's avatar
Pauly wrote at 2018-05-30 21:25:32+00:00:

I also like to fly the ebay bought cart handicap flag - then I can drive that bad boy right up on the tee and on the collar of the green no problem

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Gary Beans wrote at 2018-05-30 21:07:14+00:00:

Concentrate on Golf, not the way an amateur gets their bag around the course. Have done both, carried and pull cart and the pull cart allows me to focus on my game, not what hurts because of the weight of the bag. College golf players usually cannot afford a caddie so the use of a push/pull cart should not be an issue, only the quality of their game.

Michael's avatar
Michael wrote at 2018-05-30 21:06:33+00:00:

I'm in favor! 62 years old and I walk unless the course demands you take a cart. I find I have better tempo and more relaxed. What gets me is these people half my age or younger, taking carts.

Just sayin.....

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BrandonTuckerGA Staff wrote at 2018-05-30 21:08:29+00:00:

I agree. I live near a university in a neighborhood with a course that dates back to 1899. I see college kids taking carts to play a 2,600-yard round of golf. Don't get it.

WILLIAM's avatar
WILLIAM wrote at 2018-05-30 21:02:34+00:00:

These negative, snobbish reaction to push/pull carts is just the sort of thing that puts the common man off of playing the game in the first place

Dave Pickens's avatar
Dave Pickens wrote at 2018-05-30 21:01:05+00:00:

Push/Pull carts are fine. It is all about choice. If someone disagrees that is fine. I play in SE Connecticut and it is hilly and tough to walk. If you think about pulling/pushing a cart is bag, how do you feel about those nasty gas powered cards!

Paul G. Fleming's avatar
Paul G. Fleming wrote at 2018-05-30 20:59:10+00:00:

If you want to carry - carry. If you want to ride- ride.

If you want to push/pull a trolley- push/pull your trolley. Regardless of your club conveyance choice, have your fun and allow others theirs. That’s the foundation upon which this great game was built - FUN!

jc's avatar
jc wrote at 2018-05-30 20:58:46+00:00:

I carried when I started...then a bad car accident and I had to use a pull cart....so what....sometimes I ride in a cart....the purpose of golf is to play golf, not how your clubs get to the next hole

BB's avatar
BB wrote at 2018-05-30 20:56:25+00:00:

Then you'll be shocked when you go to Scotland and see the vast majority of golfers using trolleys.

Lorne's avatar
Lorne wrote at 2018-05-30 20:48:41+00:00:

I am confused by how the touring pros criticize pull carts . They get people to carry their bags . I am 100% sure if the tours banned caddies they would be using pull carts as well.

Bob A's avatar
Bob A wrote at 2018-05-30 20:48:33+00:00:

Senior pro tour players take carts and the caddies lug the clubs. WHY NOIT PUSH CART FOT THR CADDIES. GEEZ MAN GIVE THESE GUYS A BREAK

John's avatar
John wrote at 2018-05-30 23:21:50+00:00:

I agree! I think it's absurd that the caddies are required to walk while the pro drives. It seems like they're hanging on to the old traditions, when caddies were treated as sub-humans.


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