Apache Stronghold Golf Course
|Maiden (W)||72||6077 yards||70.9||123|
|Chieftain (W)||72||5535 yards||67.9||123|
|Black M: 75.5/137||661||427||239||398||470||325||456||552||447||3975||472||176||418||480||186||614||510||230||458||3544||7519|
|Blue M: 73.1/123||562||395||211||334||463||311||435||542||441||3694||462||144||408||452||172||551||444||198||432||3263||6957|
|Gold M: 72.3/122||550||368||171||329||429||310||392||521||401||3471||392||125||325||440||146||551||444||198||432||3053||6524|
|Gray M: 70.7/121||511||342||161||295||390||284||380||509||383||3255||379||119||323||373||131||469||432||174||422||2822||6077|
|Red W: 70.2/119||503||311||151||284||379||260||351||452||319||3010||345||110||291||365||110||416||375||133||375||2520||5530|
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worth the drive
played for second time, cold windyday. This course although in a bit rough shape and very wet is a hidden gem. For a low handi-cap it is a really well layed out golf course. Conditioning is hurting due to location and no over seeding for winter.
All in worth the drive and to play. bring your A game.
Weather related bad condition
Called course to check conditions we’re told all was fine not cart path only we got there and we’re told it was cart path. Only and discovered that the course should have closed water over our shoes in most places only tried to play a few holes had to quit no compensation from the course bad experience !
Improvements are very visible with turf on greens and selected fairways. Greens are very receptive to approach shots and putting surfaces are excellent. Greens and approaches are extremely wet and could be improved with some attention to how much water is applied. New carts with GPS is a nice improvement also. Keep up the good work.
The carts needs to replaced. every time you go up a hill the cart has a hard time go up the hill.
As of January 1 we have new golf cars
Worth Playing but poor condition
GOOD: $34, no players, big interesting greens, great location and views, no houses, interesting layout
BAD: Fairways almost non-existent grass, ok w liberal use of preferred lies; cart path only, some green damage spots;
UGLY: Fairways bad, some flood damage; cart paths gravel-dirt.d fairways,
Even with bad fairways and problems spots on greens, worth the trip, your results may vary
Weather has not cooperated with us but we continue to try to work on improvements. We have repaired most all of the spots on the greens and will work on the fairway damage once temperatures permit growth. Please bear with us.
Seeing improvements to playing conditions. Lots of sod filling on several greens and fairways have taken place and are clearly visible.
Worth the drive-keep expectations in check
Made the drive from Scottsdale. Under two hours. First impressions were not great-range closed, carts need windscreens due to dust on paths. Course design is one of the best in AZ. Started as a single on 10 and joined up with a regular after a few holes. He helped immensely with lines off the tee and green slopes. The fairways are generous, but being on the right side makes a difference. Every hole is different and unique. Great risk/reward par fives, a couple of exciting short par fours, and some good, long challenging par fours.
Par threes are really good, don’t be short on any of them or you will find bunkers that are playable but in rough shape. Fairways were wet in spots, close to greens were soaking wet and balls plugged where they landed. Land on the green and balls hold and stick. Makes for large ball marks, but greens were very playable and in good shape.
Overall course is in good shape, but in some places you need to lift and clean. If this course was near Phoenix and in good shape would be as good or better than WeKoPah, Quintero, and Wickenburg Ranch. Better than Troon North or Grayhawk. Nowhere near as penal as Quintero, but just as hard and you can see the greens could be as fast as Quintero if they wanted to make it play that way.
It is worth taking a group for the day and enjoy the course as it is and dream what it could be if they could figure out how to generatethe kind of revenue it needs to be in championship conditions. Could be a long term project/challenge for Troon Golf.
Played one up from tips and it was perfect distance for me-6 handicap. Suggest play the right tees to get the most out of the experience.
Don’t expect Scottsdale service or conditioning, but played in under three hours and never hurried. Might be the most playable desert golf course, with unique design elements I have played in a long time. $40 green fee and $30 in gas is still cheaper than anywhere comparable this time of year.
Apache Stronghold: Tom Doak's High Desert Masterpiece
Back in 1999, Tom Doak opened the Apache Stronghold Golf Course, a beautiful accompaniment to the casino built at the same time. From the back tees, it was a complete beast, running a bit over 7,500 yards in length with a 145 slope. It possessed as fine a mixture of par threes in the state. Doak also included a drivable zero-horizon par four. The par fives were brilliant. There was nothing about this course that was second rate. But the death knell was that it was in Globe. There just wasn't enough traffic to keep it going. Year after year, it was allowed to go to seed and then, they simply closed it in the midst of the late 2000 financial crisis. Shut it down. For what appeared to be good.
The course reopened in 2013. It is STILL in rough shape and that is truly saddening. BUT the DESIGN remains and it is absolutely worth the trip to do a Stay and Play, simply to see what Tom Doak can do if you have never played one of his designs. If you have, then it's simply a celebratory ride through the High Desert, wishing that money was no object and that it would be poured into the course. Bring some cigars, a good buddy, have a few drinks while you play and keep your mind open. I promise you, you won't forget what a truly great golf course designer was able to do with such a remarkable stretch of land.
Could be great
This course could be one of the best in the state. The layout follows the natural terrain and offers a wide variety of shots required. There are no homes near the course, only nature. The course conditions are very poor. The fairways are spotty at best, the greens are bumpy and have patches without grass and the sand traps are basically unplayable. The cart paths are so rough in places that you think you're four wheeling instead of golfing. Even with all the negative comments, we had an enjoyable round because of the design.
Best Public course
I've played Apache Stronghold for years. The greens are coming around, but I prefer them a lot slicker. Still some bad areas here and there, but me playing there for so long, I know where to place my ball. Rudy is always awesome. He deserves a raise.
The course has undergone significant improvements to the cart paths and drainage. The majority of the fairways are in great condition but the lack of sprinkler repairs has allowed large patches of the grass to die off. Several of the greens had rough spots.
All the greens had been aerated and covered in sand which made for very poor putting conditions. I was surprised that the course was open under these conditions or that the whole course had been treated at the same time. The fairways were not in very good condition either. My recommendation to a friend would be, "not at this time".
I'm sorry you the course did not meet your expectations. Unfortunately, aeration must be done if we are to maintain the greens. We put our aeration dates on our website and on the bulletin board but no matter when it is done it is going to impact play. That is why we lower our prices while the greens are healing. I also noticed you got your tee time through Golf Now, which lowered your price even further. Our greens should be healed soon and we would welcome your comments then.
A long but very, very scenic drive from Mesa to Apache Stronghold Golf Course.
Very friendly staff and terrific service at the course which was challenging and scenic. No houses around the golf holes and lots of distance between holes makes you feel you are on a real desert course.
The food at the snack bar was delicious and fresh and we had dinner at the Casino next doir that was good and affordable.
All and all, great value for the day.
Spectacular setting. Course in rough shape but still very playable. Hope to play a few more rounds before the next monsoons washes it away. Rudy is the man!
While course conditions are average for a muni the layout is one of the most spectacular and challenging anywhere. Tom Doak used a natural routing and terrain to craft one of the best layouts anywhere. No two holes are alike. Super golf packages and low green fees make this a must play for those in the Phoenix area. Just visited for the fourth time and can not wait to go back.
Arrived an hour early for tee time so decided to get out as there was only 1 golfer in front of us (2-some) power cart with gps, friendly people. Tee boxes were like carpet. Fairways, soft but crispy grass. Workers out there manicuring the course. Even though they are sand cart paths, they are still not rough, non-issue. Enjoyed this natural wilderness course. Washrooms on course were clean, with running water and flush toilets. Such a shame this course is not booked solid, maybe just getting started. Great value for the quality of course. Also have nice choices for golf apparel in pro shop. Hope you continue to grow and become a well attended and appreciated golf course. We totally enjoyed the experience here. Thank you!
The Ultimate Desert Course
If you want to experience the ultimate in desert golf this is it. Our foursome has played well over thirty courses in the valley and agree none compare to Apache Stronghold for desert terrain and mountain views. If you're a golf snob and demand perfectly manicured fairways and greens don't bother. The fairways are spotty and the greens look horrible but play as true as any I've played this year. The greens are also the fastest I've played in years. Worth the drive and we'll be returning soon.
We enjoy this course it plays thru the unspoiled desert surrounding elevated tees fast rolling greens and beautiful views!! Had breakfast at the casino highly recommend it also!!