Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course

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3.9
833
5 Stars
244
4 Stars
344
3 Stars
154
2 Stars
57
1 Stars
34
Staff Friendliness
4.3
Pace
4.0
Amenities
4.1
Conditions
4.0
Value
3.8
Layout
4.0
81.7%
Recommend this course
651 out of 833 reviews
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3.9
833
5 Stars
19
4 Stars
29
3 Stars
19
2 Stars
6
1 Stars
1
Staff Friendliness
4.3
Pace
3.9
Amenities
4.1
Conditions
3.9
Value
3.8
Layout
3.9
77.0%
Recommend this course
57 out of 74 reviews
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3.9
833
5 Stars
42
4 Stars
72
3 Stars
28
2 Stars
9
1 Stars
2
Staff Friendliness
4.4
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.1
Conditions
4.1
Value
3.9
Layout
4.0
83.7%
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128 out of 153 reviews
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About

Holes 18
Par 70
Length 7133
Slope 125
Rating 72.7
Type Public
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf. "Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees. The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
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Tee Par Length Rating Slope
Black 70 7133 yards 72.7 125
Gold 70 6510 yards 69.7 120
Gold (W) 70 6510 yards 75.6 127
Gold/Jade 70 5945 yards 66.4 115
Gold/Jade (W) 70 5945 yards 71.6 119
Jade 70 5532 yards 64.9 113
Jade (W) 70 5532 yards 70.2 116
Scorecard for O'odham
Metrics:
Hole 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Out 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 In Total
Black M: 72.6/124 394 552 450 433 391 223 457 153 446 3499 437 261 392 391 445 461 194 582 471 3634 7133
Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 379 509 417 390 356 187 427 143 412 3220 390 217 358 356 410 425 161 534 439 3290 6510
Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 379 509 375 337 356 147 325 118 331 2877 390 182 358 356 357 389 161 484 391 3068 5945
Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 312 449 375 337 277 147 325 118 331 2671 353 182 245 316 357 389 144 484 391 2861 5532
Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 235 393 326 280 277 147 259 118 331 2366 275 121 245 271 280 277 144 372 326 2311 4677
Handicap 15 13 1 3 11 5 9 17 7 12 6 2 16 8 14 18 4 10
Par 4 5 4 4 4 3 4 3 4 35 4 3 4 4 4 4 3 5 4 35 70
Handicap (W) 5 1 3 9 13 15 11 17 7 6 16 10 14 12 4 18 2 8

Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Reviews

3.9
833

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 60
Patio Dining 30
Brunch 24
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 130
Undulating Greens 72
Plays Long 49
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 76
A Weekend Splurge 71
Locals 68
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 123
Convenient to the City 117
Near Local Attractions 56
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Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
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Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Wait a month before you play

this time of year I always call to check on the condition of the greens. Which I did the operator was somewhat confused about the timeline. (that should have tipped me off) Well long story short she informed me wrong and Monday was the first day of off of aerification! So the greens were awful the kid in the shop tried his best to tell us they were going to be great but they weren't. Probably won't ever play there again.
Staff Friendliness Excellent
Pace of Play Excellent
Off-course amenities Excellent
Course Conditions Fair
Value for the Money Fair
Course Layout Excellent
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Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a year
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played
Staff Friendliness Excellent
Pace of Play Good
Off-course amenities Excellent
Course Conditions Good
Value for the Money Excellent
Course Layout Excellent
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Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
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First Time Playing
Staff Friendliness Good
Pace of Play Average
Course Conditions Average
Value for the Money Average
Course Layout Average
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Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Fun course

Conditions of greens were awful today (they had just been punched) but usually they are in good shape.
Staff Friendliness Good
Pace of Play Good
Off-course amenities Excellent
Course Conditions Average
Value for the Money Good
Course Layout Excellent
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
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First Time Playing

Not a good value for the $

Great course for the weekend warriors however, if you are serious about your game stay away...fairways were not well kept and the greens were plugged and sanded. Impossible to run a ball up onto a green because the collars were muddy. Very disappointed with the course.
Staff Friendliness Excellent
Pace of Play Excellent
Course Conditions Fair
Value for the Money Fair
Course Layout Fair
Played On
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Staff Friendliness Excellent
Pace of Play Average
Course Conditions Good
Value for the Money Excellent
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Talking stick

Summer in phoenix so great price but only greens in good shape; rest very dry and in bad shape
Staff Friendliness Excellent
Pace of Play Excellent
Off-course amenities Average
Course Conditions Fair
Value for the Money Good
Course Layout Good
Played On
Skill Beginner
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser

Always fun.

Challenging course, nice facilities.. greens rolled great.
Staff Friendliness Good
Pace of Play Excellent
Off-course amenities Good
Course Conditions Excellent
Value for the Money Good
Course Layout Excellent
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Talking stick north

Good course. Had fun they had a beverage cart. Green grass and sand.
Staff Friendliness Good
Pace of Play Excellent
Off-course amenities Average
Course Conditions Good
Value for the Money Good
Course Layout Good
Played On
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

No cart girl, slow play

The course is always in decent shape, even when it's dried up in the summer. And the layout is fun. But I've probably played here 7 times in the last 3 or for years and never had a round that was under 5 hours. it seems like they really pack you in on the weekends. And this time, we saw the cart girl once on the first green.. then never again. It's not the kind of setup where is easy to grab a snack at the turn either.
Staff Friendliness Fair
Pace of Play Poor
Off-course amenities Excellent
Course Conditions Average
Value for the Money Fair
Course Layout Excellent

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$110 Starting price
Valid dates: Aug 13, 2018 - Dec 31, 2019
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