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Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course

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4.0
918
5 Stars
278
4 Stars
379
3 Stars
166
2 Stars
61
1 Stars
34
Conditions
4.0
Value
3.8
Layout
4.0
Friendliness
4.4
Pace
3.9
Amenities
4.1
80.6%
Recommend this course
721 out of 918 reviews
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Average Rating
4.2
78
5 Stars
32
4 Stars
31
3 Stars
11
2 Stars
4
1 Stars
0
Conditions
4.1
Value
3.7
Layout
4.2
Pace
3.6
Amenities
4.0
StaffFriendliness
4.4
80.8%
Recommend this course
63 out of 78 reviews
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Average Rating
4.0
144
5 Stars
49
4 Stars
57
3 Stars
28
2 Stars
9
1 Stars
1
Conditions
4.0
Value
3.8
Layout
4.1
Pace
3.8
Amenities
4.0
StaffFriendliness
4.4
79.9%
Recommend this course
115 out of 144 reviews
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About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 125
Rating 72.7

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

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Tee Par Length Rating Slope
Black 70 7133 yards 72.7 125
Gold 70 6510 yards 69.7 120
Gold (W) 70 6510 yards 75.6 127
Gold/Jade 70 5945 yards 66.4 115
Gold/Jade (W) 70 5945 yards 71.6 119
Jade 70 5532 yards 64.9 113
Jade (W) 70 5532 yards 70.2 116
Scorecard for O'odham
Metrics:
Hole 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Out 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 In Total
Black M: 72.6/124 394 552 450 433 391 223 457 153 446 3499 437 261 392 391 445 461 194 582 471 3634 7133
Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 379 509 417 390 356 187 427 143 412 3220 390 217 358 356 410 425 161 534 439 3290 6510
Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 379 509 375 337 356 147 325 118 331 2877 390 182 358 356 357 389 161 484 391 3068 5945
Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 312 449 375 337 277 147 325 118 331 2671 353 182 245 316 357 389 144 484 391 2861 5532
Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 235 393 326 280 277 147 259 118 331 2366 275 121 245 271 280 277 144 372 326 2311 4677
Handicap 15 13 1 3 11 5 9 17 7 12 6 2 16 8 14 18 4 10
Par 4 5 4 4 4 3 4 3 4 35 4 3 4 4 4 4 3 5 4 35 70
Handicap (W) 5 1 3 9 13 15 11 17 7 6 16 10 14 12 4 18 2 8

Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Reviews

4.0
918

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 60
Patio Dining 30
Brunch 24
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 130
Undulating Greens 72
Plays Long 49
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 76
A Weekend Splurge 71
Locals 68
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 123
Convenient to the City 117
Near Local Attractions 56

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Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
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5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
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5.0
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Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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Handicap 25+
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Perfect Day

From start to finish everything went smoothly.
The guys in. the pro shop were very friendly as was the starter. The fairways were in beautiful
shape as were most of the greens.
The course was busy but still moved pretty well.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Average
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Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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First Time Playing
Windy weather
Used cart

A little wind makes a big difference

A flat course without any really outstanding challenges or holes. Just a pleasant outing in the Phoenix sun. The wind kicked up a bit of challenge since I hit my irons very high, but the course itself was pretty forgiving and the greens receptive.
The greens though were not in very good shape. Pock marked terribly, and bumpy near the hole. I had an eagle putt tracking to the hole when it hit a HUGE crater and bounced straight up. Don't know how I missed fixing THAT ball mark, but a bit of a downer both for condition of course and of my attention span lol. I'll play it again.
Clubhouse was good, lots of attractive merch. Got a head cover with a cool native design and comfortable, great looking shirt.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Overrated.

Course was ok but is very overrated. It’s a $50 course not a $150.

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

WEEDS

The weeds were so VERY AGGRAVATING!!! They were 2 ft. I should have complained to know end.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Excellent

Fairways are immaculate. Very nice staff and course

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Delayed start

Course was a good shape given all the rain over the last few days. Biggest issue was tee times delayed 1 hour. Instead of 2:08, tee off was 3:05, therefore was unable to play 18 holes. This was frustrating.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Good
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Handicap Don't know
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Weather shortened round

Nice to play on a course not surrounded by housing. South course conditions were excellent, staff were great. Only negative was getting our round on the GolfNow “hot deal” pricing. It was raining when we started and raining really hard when we quit part way through. The fine print says the only refund available is when the course is closed. It might as well have been closed with the number of golfers remaining when we quit. The only ones left must have been the “ hot deal” people who couldn’t cancel. Ah well, live and learn.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Let's tee off

Staff very friendly and helpful. Course was in good shape but a little overpriced for a basic layout.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
First Time Playing
Cold weather
Used cart

Good Track, Great Experience

Played the North and South courses back to back. Great setting, views, and really great staff.
Frost delay the one day made it hard to judge pace of play as they were scrambling to get groups out.

Range is huge.
Clubhouse well stocked.
Lounge small but great outdoor viewing area

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a month
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Used cart
Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Fair
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great course and friendly staff.

Beautiful course, rate of play was perfect and the staff was awesome. Would recommend to anyone in the Phoenix area to play.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Cold weather
Used cart

cold windy day at talking stick

Haven't played it in a while. I'll be back. Great layout, challenging course, lots of fun.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Slow play and noisy

Over a 5 hour round. They let people ride that aren’t playing and play their music very loud.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
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