Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course

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4.0
875
5 Stars
260
4 Stars
363
3 Stars
159
2 Stars
59
1 Stars
34
Conditions
4.0
Value
3.9
Layout
4.0
Friendliness
4.3
Pace
4.0
Amenities
4.1
81.7%
Recommend this course
687 out of 873 reviews
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4.1
50
5 Stars
18
4 Stars
23
3 Stars
7
2 Stars
3
1 Stars
0
Conditions
3.9
Value
3.9
Layout
4.2
Pace
4.0
Amenities
4.0
StaffFriendliness
4.5
82.4%
Recommend this course
42 out of 50 reviews
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Average Rating
4.0
155
5 Stars
47
4 Stars
70
3 Stars
28
2 Stars
8
1 Stars
2
Conditions
4.0
Value
3.9
Layout
4.0
Pace
3.9
Amenities
4.1
StaffFriendliness
4.4
82.6%
Recommend this course
128 out of 155 reviews
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About

Holes 18
Type Public
Par 70
Length 7133
Slope 125
Rating 72.7
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf. "Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees. The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
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Tee Par Length Rating Slope
Black 70 7133 yards 72.7 125
Gold 70 6510 yards 69.7 120
Gold (W) 70 6510 yards 75.6 127
Gold/Jade 70 5945 yards 66.4 115
Gold/Jade (W) 70 5945 yards 71.6 119
Jade 70 5532 yards 64.9 113
Jade (W) 70 5532 yards 70.2 116
Scorecard for O'odham
Metrics:
Hole 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Out 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 In Total
Black M: 72.6/124 394 552 450 433 391 223 457 153 446 3499 437 261 392 391 445 461 194 582 471 3634 7133
Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 379 509 417 390 356 187 427 143 412 3220 390 217 358 356 410 425 161 534 439 3290 6510
Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 379 509 375 337 356 147 325 118 331 2877 390 182 358 356 357 389 161 484 391 3068 5945
Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 312 449 375 337 277 147 325 118 331 2671 353 182 245 316 357 389 144 484 391 2861 5532
Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 235 393 326 280 277 147 259 118 331 2366 275 121 245 271 280 277 144 372 326 2311 4677
Handicap 15 13 1 3 11 5 9 17 7 12 6 2 16 8 14 18 4 10
Par 4 5 4 4 4 3 4 3 4 35 4 3 4 4 4 4 3 5 4 35 70
Handicap (W) 5 1 3 9 13 15 11 17 7 6 16 10 14 12 4 18 2 8

Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Reviews

4.0
875

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 60
Patio Dining 30
Brunch 24
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 130
Undulating Greens 72
Plays Long 49
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 76
A Weekend Splurge 71
Locals 68
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 123
Convenient to the City 117
Near Local Attractions 56

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Unhappy with the course

Disappointed that we didn't get to play the South Course. We signed up for that one but relegated to the North course when we arrived. Felt it was not the best course for the money. Extremely boring course. We won't be back.

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
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Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Previously Played

Beautiful day at the South (Piipash) Course

My daughter, who was a Div 3 golfer, and I were paired with a lovely couple in their 60’s from Denver. The staff was welcoming, the rangers ensured their was no delays, and the course was in great shape, although we wish several pins were not placed so far in the front part of the green with severe slope. We also saw six wild horses; what a sight! She had an off-day and shot an 85 from the 6,000 yard gold/jade combo, while I shot an 89 from the 6,400 yard tees. The bunkers were inconsistent— one was like concrete. All said, a fine day!

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Staff not attentive

Staff could be more friendly & attentive with service. While in pro shop, staff took my cart with all my belongings & hot dog, thinking I just abandoned it. Need more bathrooms or better locations on the course. Tee time was late in day (1:52),couldn’t finish course before sunset, drove off leaving 4 unfinished holes! Course was slow, no rangers to move it along.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Fair
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Played On
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Playable course in good shape

Flat, comparatively strqight with wide fairways as reflected in the slope rating. Course was in excellent shape.making the day very enjoyable. We played in 4:15 on a Wednesday afternoon. Unlike so many places the rangers actually seemed to work at keeping things moving. My only complaint and possible deterrent to my returning is the large volume on goose droppings on several holes and greens. The geese need to find their way to someone’s holiday table.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Played On
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Cowtown

Usual good value for the buck, course was in good condition and fun playing partners. Apparently the first frost delay of season but we were only 15 min behind schedule when our tee time came up.

Too many geese and their deposits on the back nine

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Handicap Don't know
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Piipaash Course was beautiful today

Except for a large flock of Canada geese and their droppings all over the green on par 3 17, the course was wonderful. Very player friendly.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Top 1000 Contributor
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

One of my favorite courses in Phoenix

It lacks the elevation change and wow factor of a lot of the bigger names, but this course has as much strategy and charm as any course in the Valley. It's wide fairways are forgiving and you're not likely to shoot a huge number here but the subtleties of the greens make it hard for even good players to go low. It's a great course.

It's in very nice condition right now. Greens are firm and rolling well, fairways also had some bounce. A couple areas around the green were a bot soft which was the only issue. Hopefully that will resolve as the course matures from overseed.

We played the front nine briskly then ran into a logjam of groups on 12. Even so we still played in under 4 hours which is not bad on a Sunday afternoon when following a junior event.

The junior event, however, did create my only real complaint for the day. The event put out special flags, all the same color, and the course didn't provide any pin sheets. So all day long we had no idea what the hole locations were from the fairway. That's frustrating on a course with relatively big greens, some of which are somewhat blind and/or not well defined. Otherwise, a wonderful day out on a beautiful November day in Phoenix.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

First time at Talking Stick

Decided to play here after moving to the area. Course is in good shape, greens are firm and fast and fairways are in great condition. Finished round in 4 hours, which was good for a holiday. Would have been a 3.5 hr round but the twosome in front of us didn’t understand the concept of playing ready golf.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

An excellent course to play it forward

I played the more forward tees and found it to be a very comfortable course, with interesting holes and great conditions. My wife played the most forward tees and found that she could reach the greens in regulation on most holes.

The most concerning part of the round was that the website and Golf Now said that it was not cart path only, but it was making for a difficult walk for my partner's bad knee. Lots of construction going on, but still worth the trip.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Awesome day on the links

Excellent playing conditions, pace of play was good, good value for money

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great Experience

Course was in great shape. Views spectacular. Very nice day of golf.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Average
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Windy weather
Used cart

can find better for price

Played T.S. many times but in years past during travels to the valley area

My playing partner just got his new knees so wanted a forgiving course but also a memorable course for first outing after months.

Memorable but fro the wrong reasons - poor course condition, particularly the tee boxes and some fairways pretty worn. And for the money (expected better), I could have found a lot better place. Value is just not there anymore.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great local

Golfed with a local gentleman, who had great knowledge of the course and was very engaging!

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

A frustrating day

The round to over 5 hours and 15 minutes. When we got to the first tee we found out it was cart path only. The starter gave us the wrong score card (there are 2 courses) and the staff very poor.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Fair
Friendliness Fair
Amenities Poor
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Nice course horrible pace of play.

Thé course is great. We probably fell on a bad day. First nine took almost 2.5. Hours to play. Horrible pace. Because of that we could not finish the 18th when the sun set. We never saw a Marshall on the course. It could have saved our round.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great courae

We had a fun round and the course was In great shape The pro shop staff were very basic and not so friendly and we had to ask for everything

The GPS on the cart didn’t work

We would play there again

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Good
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