Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course

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3.9
848
5 Stars
248
4 Stars
352
3 Stars
157
2 Stars
57
1 Stars
34
Conditions
4.0
Value
3.8
Layout
4.0
Friendliness
4.3
Pace
3.9
Amenities
4.1
81.2%
Recommend this course
664 out of 846 reviews
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3.8
63
5 Stars
16
4 Stars
27
3 Stars
15
2 Stars
4
1 Stars
1
Conditions
3.9
Value
3.8
Layout
4.0
Pace
3.9
Amenities
4.1
StaffFriendliness
4.4
77.8%
Recommend this course
49 out of 63 reviews
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3.9
146
5 Stars
40
4 Stars
69
3 Stars
29
2 Stars
7
1 Stars
2
Conditions
4.1
Value
3.8
Layout
4.0
Pace
4.0
Amenities
4.1
StaffFriendliness
4.4
83.0%
Recommend this course
122 out of 146 reviews
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About

Holes 18
Par 70
Length 7133
Slope 125
Rating 72.7
Type Public
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf. "Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees. The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
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Tee Par Length Rating Slope
Black 70 7133 yards 72.7 125
Gold 70 6510 yards 69.7 120
Gold (W) 70 6510 yards 75.6 127
Gold/Jade 70 5945 yards 66.4 115
Gold/Jade (W) 70 5945 yards 71.6 119
Jade 70 5532 yards 64.9 113
Jade (W) 70 5532 yards 70.2 116
Scorecard for O'odham
Metrics:
Hole 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Out 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 In Total
Black M: 72.6/124 394 552 450 433 391 223 457 153 446 3499 437 261 392 391 445 461 194 582 471 3634 7133
Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 379 509 417 390 356 187 427 143 412 3220 390 217 358 356 410 425 161 534 439 3290 6510
Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 379 509 375 337 356 147 325 118 331 2877 390 182 358 356 357 389 161 484 391 3068 5945
Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 312 449 375 337 277 147 325 118 331 2671 353 182 245 316 357 389 144 484 391 2861 5532
Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 235 393 326 280 277 147 259 118 331 2366 275 121 245 271 280 277 144 372 326 2311 4677
Handicap 15 13 1 3 11 5 9 17 7 12 6 2 16 8 14 18 4 10
Par 4 5 4 4 4 3 4 3 4 35 4 3 4 4 4 4 3 5 4 35 70
Handicap (W) 5 1 3 9 13 15 11 17 7 6 16 10 14 12 4 18 2 8

Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Reviews

3.9
848

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 60
Patio Dining 30
Brunch 24
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 130
Undulating Greens 72
Plays Long 49
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 76
A Weekend Splurge 71
Locals 68
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 123
Convenient to the City 117
Near Local Attractions 56
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4.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
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Skill Advanced
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I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing

Over seeding cart path only

Enjoyed the course but as with October golf out west over-seeding means cart path only. Nice course that is well cared for. The course is not a true desert layout as there is grass from tee to green and very wide fairways. The course is not overly difficult and has good length par fours and some shorter strategy type as well. I got a great deal on Golfnow and I’m glad I played it.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Needs time

The course had just been over seeded and hasn’t quite gotten up to speed. In about 10 days if should be perfect.. it’s a great layout and a fair test for your game.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Played On
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

First day of golf in AZ

Price was too high for the conditions. Staff did a great job.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great course and great value

The course was exceptionally well maintained. Greens were good and speed was average.

Pace of play was a little slow but tolerable.

Really enjoyed the north course and highly recommend it.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Played On
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Wet weather
Used cart

Very wet but still enjoyable

Played Talking Stick O'odham course on October 4, 2018 which was only two days after major rainfalls in the Phoenix area. Amazed that we were able to drive carts on the course! Several cart path detours due to standing water but the maintenance staff were working hard to remove the unexpected 'ponds'. Pace of play slowed a little by the wet conditions, but round still done in 4.75 hours.

It was our first time playing this course and we enjoyed the overall experience.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Previously Played
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Top Notch

Total staff was professional and friendly. Wide open fairways give players with varied skill levels the opportunity to play shots to the green. Greens roll true and moderately fast. We will definitely be back next year.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Course conditiins

range and putting green closed, bunkers were hard as rock, course in bad shape due to rains...

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Poor
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

What’s wrong with this GPS

Got there early and the driving range was closed so we went out right away. There were a couple of holes where

the ground was under repair before the greens. That was not a problem, our biggest concern was the cart gps. The graphics were like a bad video game. The distances took forever to get close to what they really were and to show where the flags where. I had my own gps, but did not take it because they were on the carts. I would play either course again, but would avoid using there gps because it would only push my handicap further up then what I am playing at.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

THE RANGE AND PUTTING GREEN ARE CLOSED

Was very disappointed when I showed up 45 minutes early before my round on the day off and was looking forward to hitting some balls and putting prior to the round just to find out at the range and all practice facilities were closed! BULL

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Great Fun, manicured, pleasurable round

People super, and customer focused The grounds keeping crew do a super job. Super green. Fast play...and fun with generous fairways. .

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Skill Beginner
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Very good course

We played the south course which was in very good condition given its summer. The fairways were exceptional. We found playing off the gold was more challenging than the black due to the hazard placements. Although insignificant I also liked having water coolers at every other hole. Would definitely play again.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Talking Sticks

The course was in great shape. The greens were good a little sand on them, but over all good.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Great course, but bunkers unplayable.

First time playing at Talking Stick. Played South/Piipaash for around $40, great summer deal. Was surprised by how nice the course is and the fun layout. Greens, fairways, and tee boxes were all in great shape. Unfortunately the bunkers basically don't have sand and are filled with packed dirt. I know bunkers are hard to maintain so I usually don't complain, but the complete lack of sand at Talking Stick makes them almost impossible to play because most of the greenside bunkers have high overhanging brims. After a 6-shot bunker experience we started taking a drop for all bunker play. This really changed the feel of the game and was pretty sad given the quality of the course. It would be a favorite place for me as I live so close.

Practice area and facility is top notch. Was suprised. Pace of play was rather slow, and this seems to be a constant theme in the reviews. Was playing in a two-some and we got through in just over 4.5 hours, waiting at every tee. Not sure if they need to space out the tee times more or what.

Will probably return to give it a second chance because this place is so convenient for me, and has a uniquely fun/playable desert layout. Please work on the bunkers and update the public so we know!

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Wait a month before you play

this time of year I always call to check on the condition of the greens. Which I did the operator was somewhat confused about the timeline. (that should have tipped me off)

Well long story short she informed me wrong and Monday was the first day of off of aerification!

So the greens were awful

the kid in the shop tried his best to tell us they were going to be great but they weren't.

Probably won't ever play there again.

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a year
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Played On
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Fun course

Conditions of greens were awful today (they had just been punched) but usually they are in good shape.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Not a good value for the $

Great course for the weekend warriors however, if you are serious about your game stay away...fairways were not well kept and the greens were plugged and sanded. Impossible to run a ball up onto a green because the collars were muddy. Very disappointed with the course.

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
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