Talking Stick Golf Club - Piipaash Course

3.9571588235 4.0 stars from 5 (804)
  • Holes: 18
  • Par: 71
  • Length: 6833 yards
  • Slope: 127
  • Rating: 72.1
  • Layout

  • 9998 E Indian Bend Rd, Scottsdale, Arizona 85256, Maricopa County
  • (480) 860-2221
  • (480) 850-7297
  • talkingstickgolfclub.com

Year built: 1998
Architect(s): Bill Coore (1998), Ben Crenshaw (1998)
Type: Public
Style: Traditional
Greens: MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Fairways: Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Golf Season: Year round

Rentals/Services

Carts: Yes
Clubs: Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving range: Yes
Pitching/chipping area: Yes
Putting green: Yes
Teaching pro: Yes
Golf school / academy: Yes

Policies

Walking allowed: Yes
Metal spikes allowed: No, rentals available
Dress code: Collared Shirts & No denim
Credit cards accepted: VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed

Tees | Layout | Full Scorecard

Tee Par Length Rating Slope
Black 71 6833 yards 72.1 127
Gold 71 6430 yards 69.9 121
Gold (W) 71 6430 yards 75.2 130
Gold/Jade 71 6040 yards 67.6 116
Gold/Jade (W) 71 6040 yards 72.0 123
Jade 71 5331 yards 65.4 111
Jade (W) 71 5331 yards 69.1 117

The Talking Stick Golf Club, designed by Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, offers two uniquely different courses that each offer many options according to your playing skill. The Piipaash course (previously known as South at Talking Stick Golf Club), with its tree-lined fairways and raised greens defended at the sides offers a more straightforward style of play than the O'odham Course (formerly known as North at Talking Stick Golf Club).

A round of golf on the Piipaash Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club kicks off on a par-4 hole that measures 405 yards from the Black tees. Three long par-5 holes ensures that power golfers will get their kicks, with the fifth hole coming in at 516 yards, the 1fourth measuring 541 and the 16th playing to 548. The round of golf concludes on a relatively shorter par 4 that measures 323 yards.

After a round of golf on the North Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club, head back to the Wildhorse Grille for drinks and a bite to eat.

Rating Snapshot

GA Rating Index 4.0 stars from 5
Off-Course Amenities: 4.1 stars from 5
Value: 3.9 stars from 5
Pace of Play: 4.0 stars from 5
Staff Friendliness: 4.3 stars from 5
Course Layout: 4.0 stars from 5
Course Conditions: 4.1 stars from 5
Rating Breakdown 804 Reviews
5 stars:
238
4 stars:
331
3 stars:
147
2 stars:
54
1 stars:
34

recommend this course

629 out of 802 reviews


What Golfers Are Saying

Location is at a resort convenient to the city near local attractions   Great for advanced golfers a weekend splurge locals   Challenges include bunkers undulating greens plays long   Great for drinks patio dining brunch  

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chihawk67's avatar
Age:  35-44
Gender:  Male
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Few times a week
Handicap:  10-14

5 5.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/17/2018
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Reviewed on


Pace of Play: Excellent

Course Layout: Excellent

Course Conditions: Excellent

Staff Friendliness: Excellent

Value for the Money: Excellent

Off-Course Amenities: Excellent


I recommend this course


"Women Friendly Course"


Allen2343344's avatar
Age:  55-64
Gender:  Female
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Few times a week
Handicap:  15-19

4 4.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/17/2018
First time playing Verified Purchaser

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We enjoyed this course with 2 couples. Very woman friendly course. Course was in great condition.

Not as picturesc as some but excellent value for the cost


Pace of Play: Good

Course Layout: Good

Course Conditions: Excellent

Staff Friendliness: Excellent

Value for the Money: Good

Off-Course Amenities: Average


I recommend this course


"Sneaky tough"


Gregory9739136's avatar
Age:  45-54
Gender:  Male
Skill:  Advanced
Plays:  Few times a week
Handicap:  5-9

5 5.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/16/2018
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Played the South course today, and while the North may have a more challenging layout, the South is plenty to handle. Well protected greens, with just enough undulation so you need to be careful. Greens were slick and true.

Layout had everything you'd want, long Par 4s and risk/reward Par 5s. Pace was excellent and staff was friendly. Ill be back for sure


Pace of Play: Excellent

Course Layout: Good

Course Conditions: Excellent

Staff Friendliness: Excellent

Value for the Money: Excellent

Off-Course Amenities: Excellent


I recommend this course



murray8276548249's avatar
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Once a week

5 5.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/15/2018
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Pace of Play: Excellent

Course Layout: Excellent

Course Conditions: Excellent

Staff Friendliness: Excellent

Value for the Money: Excellent

Off-Course Amenities: Excellent


I recommend this course



CAMatthew1's avatar
Age:  65+
Gender:  Male
Skill:  Advanced
Plays:  Few times a week
Handicap:  10-14

4 4.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/14/2018
First time playing Verified Purchaser

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Pace of Play: Excellent

Course Layout: Good

Course Conditions: Good

Staff Friendliness: Good

Value for the Money: Good


I recommend this course



slawomir's avatar
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Once a week
Handicap:  10-14

4 4.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/13/2018
First time playing Used cart Windy weather Verified Purchaser

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Pace of Play: Excellent

Course Layout: Good

Course Conditions: Average

Staff Friendliness: Good

Value for the Money: Good

Off-Course Amenities: Good

Course Difficulty:  Moderate


I recommend this course


"The layout of the course has great features."


mozellbarnes6274's avatar
Gender:  Male
Skill:  Advanced
Plays:  Few times a week
Handicap:  15-19

4 4.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/12/2018
First time playing Verified Purchaser

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This was a nice course with a lot of traps and for the first time playing it, it was challenging to play on. The course was in great condition. I played the North course, and I would highly recommend others to play.


Pace of Play: Good

Course Layout: Excellent

Course Conditions: Excellent

Staff Friendliness: Excellent

Value for the Money: Good

Off-Course Amenities: Good


I recommend this course


"Course in word - boring"


Blanechar's avatar
Age:  55-64
Gender:  Male
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Few times a week
Handicap:  10-14

2 2.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/03/2018
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All the holes seemed to be the same, nothing unique. Old style boring flat table top greens. Lots of stratigically placed sand traps but poor sand conditions. Place is overrun with gophers. At this price, they are catering to the convention goers at the hotel. Way overpriced for locals. Lots of nicer courses at half the price.


Pace of Play: Fair

Course Layout: Poor

Course Conditions: Average

Staff Friendliness: Average

Value for the Money: Poor

Off-Course Amenities: Good


I don't recommend this course


"Decent Day"


Gilbert12's avatar
Age:  55-64
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Once a week
Handicap:  15-19

3 3.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/03/2018
Previously played Used cart Perfect weather Verified Purchaser

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Course is in good shape with greens and sand very consistent. Good course to warm up with as it is very forgiving. Had a good day with the exception of a shot gun tournament inserted ahead of us part way through the round. Think this is something they should have made us aware of as it certainly slowed our progress. Pace of play had been very good to this point.


Pace of Play: Good

Course Layout: Average

Course Conditions: Good

Staff Friendliness: Good

Value for the Money: Average

Course Difficulty:  Fairly Easy


I recommend this course


"Great course"


thor1025's avatar
Age:  65+
Gender:  Male
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Few times a week
Handicap:  20-24

5 5.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/02/2018
Previously played Used cart Perfect weather Verified Purchaser

Reviewed on

This course is a great place to play in the East Valley. This is a traditional course rather than desert. They keep the fairways and greens in great shape.


Pace of Play: Good

Course Layout: Good

Course Conditions: Excellent

Staff Friendliness: Excellent

Value for the Money: Good

Off-Course Amenities: Good

Course Difficulty:  Moderate


I recommend this course



Sean4383329's avatar
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Once a week

4 4.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/02/2018
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Pace of Play: Good

Course Layout: Good

Course Conditions: Excellent

Staff Friendliness: Excellent

Value for the Money: Excellent

Off-Course Amenities: Good


I recommend this course



Jeisler's avatar
Skill:  Advanced
Plays:  Few times a week

5 5.0 stars from 5 Played on 05/02/2018
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Pace of Play: Excellent

Course Layout: Excellent

Course Conditions: Excellent

Staff Friendliness: Excellent

Value for the Money: Excellent

Off-Course Amenities: Excellent


I recommend this course



Ncbogunia's avatar
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Few times a week

3 3.0 stars from 5 Played on 04/30/2018
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Pace of Play: Good

Course Layout: Good

Course Conditions: Average

Staff Friendliness: Good

Value for the Money: Good


I recommend this course


"Over Rated"


Golfer6232's avatar
Age:  55-64
Gender:  Male
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Few times a week

1 1.0 stars from 5 Played on 04/29/2018
First time playing

Reviewed on

The course is in beautiful condition, along with practice area.

We had an early tee time Sunday, and we wanted to grab and go something for breakfast, and their restaurant wasn’t open until a certain time.

They had a tournament starting early and people weren’t able to get anything to eat before they went out. I mean really?

Anyway again the courses are in great shape, and a nice facility.

We went out on the first tee and we got to the first green, and the group ahead of us were on the Tee and in one of their carts they were playing music, I mean I like music and all, lol but it was pretty loud.

I went up to one in their group and asked nicely if maybe they could tone it down a little when we were on the green or what have you and he said they would.

After a couple of holes, it kept going on, I mean this was a bit like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack if you remember.

There is a number you can call on the card they give you so I proceeded to call that number, the first time I called I waited on hold for 15 minutes, this is supposedly to be the number for the pro shop, i tried numerous times after that to try to speak with someone, to no avail would they answer.

Finally around the 14 Tee box I got through to someone, and they said they would take care of it, by the end of the 16th hole, nothing was done, By that time groups in front and even behind us were very upset.

Thank you very much Talking Stick for your lack of customer service and care for all of us in and around that group on Sunday April 29th tee time around 7:50am.

I realize in the big picture, this review probably means nothing to you , but there are at least 50 beautiful courses to choose from in the outlining area of Scottsdale and Phoenix.

It kind of sucks, because it is a really nice place, but For the money, I’l guess I’ll take my business else where.

William Webb


Pace of Play: Excellent

Course Layout: Excellent

Course Conditions: Excellent

Staff Friendliness: Poor

Value for the Money: Good

Off-Course Amenities: Poor


I don't recommend this course


"Good course under Arnold Palmer Management"


CraigCline's avatar
Age:  55-64
Gender:  Male
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Once a week
Handicap:  15-19

4 4.0 stars from 5 Played on 04/28/2018
First time playing Used cart Hot weather Verified Purchaser

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I enjoyed the course. For some reason, play was slow. I think it had to do with some groups ahead of us who were tied in to some kind of money game, and pretty darned slow as a result. Our round took about 5&1/2 hours, whereas it should have taken no more than 4&1/2. The Marshall came up to us and suggested we were a bit behind, which we were on one hole. But usually we were waiting to hit; and sometimes for quite a while. The Marshall should have been moving the guys ahead of us. They were the slow players. I don't think this is common; just happened to be the case that day (a Saturday too).


Pace of Play: Fair

Course Layout: Good

Course Conditions: Excellent

Staff Friendliness: Excellent

Value for the Money: Average

Off-Course Amenities: Good

Course Difficulty:  Somewhat Challenging


I recommend this course


"So-so course"


GregWithAnH's avatar
Age:  45-54
Gender:  Male
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Few times a week
Handicap:  10-14

3 3.0 stars from 5 Played on 04/26/2018
First time playing Used cart Perfect weather

Reviewed on

So I read the mixed reviews of this course and thought I'd give it a shot. Staff was friendly; putting, chipping, and drive range area were great; TaylorMade M2 rental clubs; who wouldn't have a great day?

I can see where people complained about 5+ hour rounds, but I was fortunate enough to play it in 4 1/2 hours, though there were a slew of players behind us that clearly caused a back-up.

You would think there would be some great views of the mountains while playing this course, but no. Though it had some challenging holes, this was a ho-hum course. If you pay more that $100 to play this course, you're crazy! Definitely not worth it. Fairways and greens were ok, but the sand traps were hard and wet (not fun). I shall not return.


Pace of Play: Average

Course Layout: Average

Course Conditions: Average

Staff Friendliness: Good

Value for the Money: Fair

Off-Course Amenities: Average

Course Difficulty:  Moderate


I don't recommend this course


"Duffer's Dream"


u8679523's avatar
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Once a month

5 5.0 stars from 5 Played on 04/25/2018
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Excellent option for repairing my ego after playing a couple of tougher tracks out in the hills. Most convenient and super affordable...will return soon!


Pace of Play: Excellent

Course Layout: Excellent

Course Conditions: Excellent

Staff Friendliness: Excellent

Value for the Money: Excellent

Off-Course Amenities: Excellent


I recommend this course



u00000210341's avatar
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Once a week

3 3.0 stars from 5 Played on 04/25/2018
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Pace of Play: Fair

Course Layout: Average

Course Conditions: Average

Staff Friendliness: Poor

Value for the Money: Poor

Off-Course Amenities: Average


I don't recommend this course


"Tired track"


u4775814's avatar
Skill:  Advanced
Plays:  Few times a week

3 3.0 stars from 5 Played on 04/24/2018
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Course conditions were good but the layout of this course is sub par. There are better courses,to pay in the Phoenix area.


Pace of Play: Excellent

Course Layout: Fair

Course Conditions: Average

Staff Friendliness: Good

Value for the Money: Average

Off-Course Amenities: Good


I don't recommend this course



BWepp's avatar
Skill:  Intermediate
Plays:  Few times a week

4 4.0 stars from 5 Played on 04/18/2018
First time playing Verified Purchaser

Reviewed on


Pace of Play: Good

Course Layout: Excellent

Course Conditions: Good

Staff Friendliness: Excellent

Value for the Money: Excellent


I recommend this course



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