Red at Bethpage State Park Golf Course
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|White M: 71.4/124 W: 77.8/135||459||387||368||171||510||337||154||364||449||3199||416||418||189||385||421||438||535||153||401||3356||6555|
|Red M: 69.7/119 W: 75.6/132||438||365||356||145||481||326||136||351||433||3031||395||406||161||372||407||425||485||144||380||3175||6206|
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Haven't played here in a few years and was pleasantly surprised. Played in 4 hours! not the 6 I was expecting. Conditions were terrific, much better than blue, yellow or green. Although they sanded the greens they still played firm and true. Not many ball marks as others have commented.
One of the Best
This is an update with more pictures added. The Red course is right up there with the best public courses in the NY area. It is on a great piece of property and utilizes it wonderfully, routing through valleys and up and down the rolling grounds. It is a great course to walk. The bunkers are strategic, large and raised up. There are quite a few doglegs but they vary in severity and strategy. The greens are gently sloped and not heavily contoured, and most allow run-ups from the preferred placement in the fairways. A real classic.
I agree with your review when you state that it is one of the best public courses in NY.... that is spot on. Love the doglegs and find it to be a really fun track. It really is a true classic. As I stated in my review, I truly love the course and believe it is a great course. I have stated that the conditions have gotten a little worse over the years, but never said the greens are bad and I do play mostly municipal courses. Just thought I'd get my two cents in
This should really be a 5
I’d like to start by saying I love red and have been playing it for 10 years now. I prefer playing it over black because it is much more playable than black, but still a challenge. Players be warned, do not let the 6600 yardage fool you. This course is a par 70, not 72, and has at least 5 par 4s well over 400 yards. The greens aren’t overalls big so you better be accurate. I think red number 1, which is a 450 downhill and then back uphill is the best starting hole in the state. I’ll stand by that. The front 9 is easier to play then the back. 15 is a gem of a hole with a group of bunkers running down the center of the fairway. I also find 9 super hard because it’s over 420 and the prevailing wind is usually in your face. If the greens are rolled and the rough is grown, this course can kick your butt.
The problem is the conditions have gotten worse over the years. The greens used to be super icy and rolled well, but that hasn’t been the case in the last two years. The greens are much slower and full of ball marks. That’s partially the lazy golfers fault that plays this course and either doesn’t care or doesn’t know how to fix it. I basically fixed my entire groups ball marks today. Full disclosure I was a single and they were a threesome. Very nice people, just didn’t fix their marks. There’s a lot of dead areas and hard pan just a few paces off the fairways. A few of the tee boxes are in really bad shape, like number 2. I also wish they would get better sand for the bunkers. The sand tends to be hard with a lot of rocks where the sand on the black is powder. I understand today was the NY open and black takes precedent, but honestly I’ve noticed some neglect on all the other courses recently. This shouldn’t be the case with all the money that comes in from the Barclays, PGA next year and eventually the Ryder Cup in 2024. Oh and one more thing, there’s ONE cart girl for 5 courses. I didn’t even see her today on red, but did see her on blue. Such a shame.
If you think the greens on the Red are bad, you must not play many muni courses. While not quite top country club level, the greens and overall conditioning of the Red is very good. I do agree the bunkers could be improved, both the sand and the edging.
I know everyone says the 1st hole is the greatest opening hole around, but it's really not. It is a very good golf hole, but not for an opener. Donald Ross said the opening hole should be a gentle handshake. Who wants to have to hit a fairway wood or long iron on your approach shot to a severely elevated green on the first hole of a round when you are barely warmed up? I understand that Tillinghast really had no better choice because he has to get the golfer from the elevated clubhouse area to the top of the ridge away from the tee area to get to the rest of the course, but that doesn't make it a great opener. And other than the elevation, it is a straight hole with not a lot else going on. I think 6, 13, 15, and 18, among others, are better par-4s on the Red.
Great option instead of playing the Black course
I decided not to play the Black course due to the difficulty and the walking requirement. Was glad on my decision. Enjoyed my round playing with 2 NY residents. Course is great for a mid-handicapper. Still long and challenging. Great condition for state maintained facility. Only downside was slower play ~ 5 hour + round.
Great course, golf haven, slow greens
This is a fantastic course with every hole being challenging and well-designed. I am a regular here and consider myself lucky to have this course so close and so available. My only complaint is that they used to cut and roll these greens frequently, and they were fast and true. Now they only cut them and they are slow. Very slow. Although they are in great shape, the lazy maintenance staff only cuts them now, They don't rake the traps either. 5 hour rounds do not exist if you play before 900.
Challenging track with length
The red course at Bethpage is the second toughest out of 5 courses at this golf mecca. Course conditions were great except for people not fixing ball marks on greens. With stratigically placed bunkers and length, the layout is one of my favorite tracks of all courses. Like the black course, errant tee shots will severely punish people especially if the fescue is out. For New Yorkers, $48 on weekends and $43 midweek prices is a steal to play a course this caliber.
A fun, challenging course, but repetitive
This is a terrific course. The 1st, 13th, and 18th are memorable holes that are a blast to play. The par 3s are also great. The one downside is that all but three of the par 4s and par 5s are severe doglegs. The course seems very repetitive because of that. This course also seems to get more play than the Black so pace of play can be tough. Still, an overall very good experience.
The other gem at Bethpage
Bethpage Red is clearly the second best track at this five-course layout. The tee times book fast and rounds are consistently 5 hours during busier times. The first hole is an intimidating par four but don't worry because 2-7 are very scoreable. The course toughens on holes 8-15, but eases up on 16-18 for chances to finish with some birdies. Well-bunkered especially in the fairways. No water. The rough can long in the summer. Trees come into play on 2, 3, 5, 6, 11, 16 and 18. Not a bad walk but does have some hills. Bethpage is notorious for poor food and limited practice facilities but don't let that dissuade you. The greens are large for the most part but you can have challenging putts. Only two par fives on this par 70 layout, but both are reachable in two.
Great conditions late in the year
Played this course two days in a row but midweek golf for a New Yorker at $43 for this course is a steal. Did not wait on one tee box so my round was done in just over 4 hrs. Greens have been aerated but ball rolls ok. Just a great value course all around.
Bethpage Red, a great Tillinghast course
Having played the Black course two previous times, I was eager to play the Red course after hearing so many good things about it and being such a fan of A.W. Tillinghast courses. I had always heard that the 1st and 18th holes on the Red are better than their respective counterparts on the Black course. To sum it up, I really enjoyed playing the Red course. As a single, I got paired up with two other gentleman than provided a good bit of local knowledge which helped. The course starts out with a brute of a 1st hole (449 yards from the whites, 466 yards from the blues). The remaining portion of the front nine gives you a bit of a breather before you hit the back nine, which is where the course's teeth bite into you. Five par 4's on the back nine over 400 yards from the white tees. The course finishes up on a terrific and intimidating 401 yard par 4 (463 yards from the blues). Such a better finishing hole than the Black course. Overall, it was a great day and I recommend the course to both intermediate and more skilled golfers. My only complaint was the round took right at five hours (typical for Bethpage when teeing off late morning) and the greens on the Red were a little slow on the day I played.
Best value course at Bethpage
Of all the 5 courses at Bethpage, I played the Red the most. In my opinion it's the best value for the money. It's the most fairest course I played on. Not too ridiculously hard but will still punish you if you hit errant tee shots.
Almost as good as the Black
If you ask the locals, they'll tell you the Red ranks right up there with the famed Black Course. In fact, if the Red got the same attention as the two-time U.S Open course, it might be on par with the Black,. As is, the Red is a terrific layout with plenty of challenge. From the back at 7,000 yards, it's all the golf most players can handle. Play it from the proper tees, and you've got a great test of golf, especially with the treacherous bunkering throughout.