Black at Bethpage State Park Golf Course

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4.8
39
5 Stars
36
4 Stars
0
3 Stars
2
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
1
Conditions
4.9
Value
4.6
Layout
5.0
Friendliness
4.2
Pace
3.4
Amenities
3.9
95.8%
Recommend this course
38 out of 39 reviews
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5.0
7
5 Stars
7
4 Stars
0
3 Stars
0
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
0
Conditions
4.9
Value
4.7
Layout
5.0
Pace
3.7
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.9
100.0%
Recommend this course
7 out of 7 reviews
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5.0
10
5 Stars
10
4 Stars
0
3 Stars
0
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
0
Conditions
4.9
Value
4.8
Layout
5.0
Pace
3.6
Amenities
3.9
StaffFriendliness
4.6
100.0%
Recommend this course
10 out of 10 reviews
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About

Holes 18
Par 71
Length 7468
Slope 152
Rating 78.1
Type Municipal
Tee Par Length Rating Slope
Championship 71 7468 yards 78.1 152
Regulation 71 6684 yards 74.0 145
Forward 71 6223 yards 77.8 150
Scorecard for Black
Metrics:
Hole 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Out 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 In Total
Blue M: 78.1/152 430 389 230 517 478 408 553 210 460 3675 502 435 501 608 161 478 490 207 411 3793 7468
White M: 74.0/145 429 354 158 461 423 386 502 191 385 3289 434 421 432 480 152 430 457 195 394 3395 6684
Red M: 71.2/137 W: 77.8/150 426 346 128 438 401 376 489 152 293 3049 377 412 403 472 139 417 431 178 345 3174 6223
Handicap 8 16 18 2 4 10 6 14 12 9 11 7 3 17 1 5 13 15
Par 4 4 3 5 4 4 5 3 4 36 4 4 4 5 3 4 4 3 4 35 71

Course Details

Year Built 1936
Fairways Poa Annua Grass
Greens Bent Grass
Golf Season Year round. Weather permitting
Architect Rees Jones (2008) Greg Muirhead (2008) A. W. Tillinghast (1936) Rees Jones (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts No
Clubs Yes
Pull-carts Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Metal Spikes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes

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Reviews

4.8
39

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Patio Dining 7
Drinks 6
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 10
Elevation Changes 9
Thick Rough 9
This course/club is great for:
A Bucket list/Top 100 Pick 11
Walkers 9
Advanced Golfers 8
This Course's Location is:
In the 'Burbs 10
Worth the Drive 9
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Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Exceeds Expectations

Mythical Bethpage Black reputation is fully warranted. I’ve never been so happy and miserable at the same time on a golf course. It’s long, so long, and unforgiving — the rough is brutal and even the first cut isn’t gentle. The greens are mostly flat and fair and in good shape, not great, which is understandable given the amount of play.

But I can’t wait to go back. It was just a fantastic experience in every way. And I was able to grind and make a lot of shots and even post decent numbers. If your budget allows, take a caddy for sure and listen to their advice.

What a day it was!

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 500 Contributor
Previously Played
Hot weather

Hardest Course I Played. When can I go back?

Played here 10 years ago. Still ranks as hardest I have ever played. We took caddies. they were very helpful. It was 90 degrees and 90 % humidity. Made for a long day 5 hr 15min. Paid for a locker and shower afterwards and there were no towels. Not often you get your butt kicked and want to go back.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0

The people’s country club

What a tough test of golf. Over 6600 from the whites isn’t overall challenging, but when you throw in brutal rough, sometimes tight fairways and blind shots you have a recipe for a triple digit score. This course really knows how to humble a golfer. Played it today in near 100 degree heat so that wasn’t pleasant. The greens were in great shape and fast, the rough was super thick and the fairways were in great shape. This course truly is a gem and worth the NYS price to get your behind kicked. My only issue is not with the course, but Bethpage State Park itself. It was almost 100 degrees today and we shouldn’t have played, but it’s so hard to get a foursome at a decent time so we kept the tee time. The course has a ton of water jugs out there which was amazing, but we didn’t see the cart girl once! There’s one for all 5 courses and that’s ridiculous. I’ve said this before and it goes upon deaf ears over there. Today was super dangerous not to have someone around with Gatorade if needed. Lastly, in case you don’t know the “halfway” house on Black is on hole 6 and then you have to run from 12 to get something on the way back towards the clubhouse. With groups behind you that doesn’t always work well

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Perfect weather

Hardest I've Ever Played

I have never felt so defeated, mentally and physically, after a round of golf. That being said I loved it. The course is renowned for being difficult, so I decided that I was going to let it kick my butt and just take it all in. The course condition was honestly incredible, especially considering it's public. Not tons of divots, not tons of pitch marks, overall perfect condition. Only thing I wasn't a fan of were the bunkers. I really struggled to figure out why I couldn't hit out of them even though I'm usually good out of the sand. The design is incredible and the bunkering is beautiful. This is in my top 2 courses played and I will be back again for another whooping!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 500 Contributor
Previously Played

Best Public Golf in the Northeast

Bethpage is fantastic. Enough said. Fun and challenging layout and picture perfect conditions. You must be able to find the fairway to score well here. It’s a physical and mental challenge but even at $150 for non-state residents, it’s well worth the money. Only thing not to like is the pace of play (expect AT LEAST a 5 hour round to walk here). But enjoy the nostalgia and challenge of the US Opens and the PGA and Ryder Cup to come. Can’t wait to see the pros play here next May!

OVERALL: 9.2/10

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 100 Contributor
Previously Played
Perfect weather

Five Stars, As Always

Fairways were perfect, greens were perfect. Rough was very thick and the fescue was terrible; I wish they'd cut the rough lower and eliminate the high grasses. It also appears they changed the sand type in the bunkers since I last played, it was very thick, especially up in the flashed faces; I was not a fan of the new bunker sand. There was a bit of construction on 18, they're adding new bunkers, as if they need more of those.

Minor critiques. The course is five stars, it'll always be five stars. Extremely difficult. Pace of play is always an issue, we played in about 5:15, that's reasonably fast for the Black. If you're out on the weekend, bring a magazine. You know what you're getting here...go with proper expectations, expect to take 6 hours, expect to have your golf game made to look like a beginner's, and expect to feel beat up when you leave. There's no better golf course for the price in America.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Awesome!

Was in NY for a company trip and had to get out. It’s ridiculous to try and book a tee time through the reservation system, unless you want to play late afternoon. But had my pro from my home club call and we got set up. The course was absolutely amazing and couldn’t have asked for better weather. My first time and would recommend a caddy as they know the layout of the course. The greens were slower than expected but rolled very true. A little steep in price, but seeing as how they’re having the 2019 PGA Championship there, guess it’s understandable. Would highly recommend and most definitely a bucket list course.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Average
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Commented On 05/29/2018

dmack

did your local pro have to play with you? and was he able to book a decent time? I am from Chicago and registered to book online but seems like all the Friday and Sat tee times are taking up early from locals.

Thanks

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Played On
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Mississippi Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Cold weather

A Masterpiece

At the end of a physically and mentally draining round, I turned to my playing partners and reached out for a handshake. "Guys, this was fun," I said. They laughed. One asked, "Was it?"

But it was! Yes, it's a kick in the pants. But the Black course is the most architecturally sound course I've ever played. The layout is spectacular, the bunkering is breathtaking, and the greens are fair. The fairways aren't the biggest in the world, but they're big enough to get around on.

Everyone is familiar with the fact that this isn't the easiest course in the world to get on, but it's worth the headache. You will be talking about Bethpage Black for a long time. Make it happen.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 100 Contributor
Previously Played
Perfect weather

Best Municipal Course Anywhere

Really incredible public golf course. The rate for New York residents makes this the best golf course for the money by a huge margin and even for out of state, the relative cost is excellent. The strength of this course is in the routing and flow of the design. The greens are very simple, without bold contouring. However, the strength of the rest of the course more than makes up for this. Holes 4, 5, and 12 are the best on the course. The 18th is often criticized because of the way tour professionals play the hole, but for the vast majority of golfers, it is a very strategic hole that will test a player right up to the final shot.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Perfect weather

The People's Course

For all the golf courses on this rock in the Atlantic Ocean called Long Island, this is the best course anyone can play. Is Shinnecock Hills on LI? Yes. Can you play it? Good Luck. If you are lucky enough to know a member who will invite you, awesome. For the rest of us without $100k, the Southampton Police will be called if we go thru the gates. But not at BP Black. Bethpage is a state park in the NYS park system. Residents will pay anywhere from $39 to $75. Non-residents, and they are strict about proof of residency, will pay $78-$150. That's the bargain of the highest magnitude in terms of greens fees for a course that the PGA frequents every few years. They played the US Open on Black in 2002 and 2009, the Barclays in 2012 and 2016, will play the PGA Championship in 2019 and the Ryder Cup in 2024. Good luck trying to play Copperhead or TPC Sawgrass (yes I have played them) for less than $250 at any time of the year. If you are looking for the greatest challenge at a reasonable price, it doesn't get much better than this. And when you do, get your "money's worth"...play from the tips, that's the real challenge. That is the secret about BP Black. While other courses you can get on will let you ride in a cart, "The People's Country Club" is walking only all the time.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Average
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