Lederach Golf Club
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Not really a links course
I'm a 10 handicap and have played this course twice from the blue tees. I wasn't completely on my game with the putter, but was striking the ball okay and shot 87 and wasn't really disappointed with that score. A bit about the course:
From the blue tees, this course plays long (6650 yards) For example: 225 yard steeply uphill par 3, 625 yard uphill par 5, 208 downhill par 3 with mounds in front of the green that will kick your ball away, and a 445 yard par 4. This course isn't easy. The extra length from these tees, which feel appropriate for my skill level, is about 200-300 yards longer than I would prefer and makes the course a bit confusing. The green tees are 600 yards shorter. Something in the middle (6300-6400 yards?) would be better.
This is not really a links style course as the fairways / greens are not fast enough, hard enough, or flat enough to get the ball running. So you are often flying the ball in, and then you are pretty much at the mercy of your landing position (1 or 2 yards one way or the other can have you getting a straight bounce or a hard bounce to the side. The course is nice, and demanding, but doesn't necessarily reward good shots in the same way some other courses do. There are no tricky tee shots or approaches that you can reliably know where you can or cannot be. It is simply asking you to pound your way to the green, and then putt like your life depended on it.
Today, the bunkers were in pretty rough shape. I know a lot of courses have been struggling to keep their bunkers nice after COVID, but these are in worse condition than I have seen at many other courses in the area. Pretty disappointing for a $75 greens fee.
Overall, worthwhile to play ... but not a course I would go wildly out of my way for, or one that I would want to be playing frequently.
Different and challenging
The fairways were in excellent condition. Ground a bit hard and therefore the greens were tough to hold. Nor surprising as it has been hot and dry lately. This is a great course with a number visually appealing holes. I highly recommend a visit here and I will be back for sure.
Now is not the time to be greedy. I don't have a problem paying $78 for this course. There are plenty of very good courses in this price range. Employees wearing masks, on course bathrooms closed, pro shop closed, no rakes in bunkers, no lifting of flags so they obviously realize Covid is still a serious problem yet they're charging an extra $10 if you don't want to share a cart. Greedy, Greedy Greedy. Bye.
Course in Great Shape. Very well maintained. Awesome and tough greens. Friendly sfaff
Not for the weak of heart, or the beginner.
Should be a sub 20 handicapper to try the greens, forget the blues and blacks
Playing here is always a challenge. It was colder. Than expected for early October and it made the greens fast. The course was in good shape for this late in the season and the recent rain it received.
Definitely will come back.
The staff is always pleasant.
Good test for better players
This is not a course for higher handicap golfers (which I am not). Greens are huge and lots of undulation. Depending on the pin placement, the greens can be a nightmare — where 3 putting will be the norm. The fairways are cut tight, so if you are a picker - you will struggle. Definitely a course you need to play a couple of times because of several blind shots. The guy in the pro shop TOTALLY LACKS CUSTOMER SERVICE skills!!! I traveled an hour to play this course, a welcoming smile (and I was paying $75) isn’t too much to ask for. He most certainly has some anger management issues.
Bring your putting game great greens must be able to hit the greens in the right spot or 3 puts will be plenty.
Lederach has slipped badly
The course was in terrible condition. Aerated and still bumpy. Should have told us in advance. Fairways were very spotty and course generally not well maintained. It’s been better in the past
They had a lot of nerve charging $75.
Even the golf cart was lousy. I thought it wasn’t going to make it
Nice layout,great shape no cart girl and hitched was closed due to a outing?But overall a very pleasant experience
Challenging but fair links course
Played on Father’s Day with a friend. Never had to wait on the tees. Course in great shape. Challenging links course with a lot of natural undulation and mounds. Devilishly placed traps. Undulating greens. Despite this, course played fair. My playing partner and I both played to our handicaps. Can’t wait to play the course again.
Not much has changed, that’s a good thing.
The course was in great condition after all the rain. The greens are always a pleasure to putt on. This is my first time back in well over 2 years. They’ve made some changes, So far, so good..
Very fun but daunting challenge
Tee boxes -- You could find mostly flat ground on most tee-boxes, plenty of clean spots to hit from with very few visible divots. A few narrow windows to hit, course played very long from blue tees, which measured at about 6,650 yards, but played longer with lack of rollout on many fairways and only a couple holes with helping wind.
Fairways -- Several had huge slopes to them, with mounds of rough usually right in the line of sight from the tee box, you're not usually hitting straight down the fairway here. Most of the grass in the fairways was cut very nicely and was pretty healthy, tons of good lies.
Rough -- Thick with gnarly ruts, holes, and various lengths of grass. You could advance the ball out of the rough usually, but you will face a severe uphilll/downhill/sidehill lie in the rough, which is essentially a double penalty.
Greens -- Legitimately some are as sloped as you would find at Augusta -- unbelievable undulations and elevations changes, false fronts, plateaus, peanut shaped greens, a postage stamp, and a couple that were 50 yards long. A few holes =in the front had very fast putts down hill and slow up-hill. Most of the back 9 played a little slower, I would guess approximately a 10 on the stimp. Holes were not cut super wide with defined edges, easy to miss putts by a inch here.
#14 -- This is an absolutely ridiculous par 3. The day I played it was 213 yards to the pin, the green is approximately 80 feet above the tee box, and since you're teeing off from a little gulch in a neighborhood, the prevailing wind is straight down that valley into your face. This hole played nearly 250 yards, and the green was so easy picnic, with the pin tucked in a slopey corner near trouble and downhill from the safe landing area. Perhaps on a sunny day from a different tee box with no wind and a friendly pin it wouldn't be such a bear, but today it was one of the hardest holes I've ever played. I drove pin high (with driver) in left rough, chipped it down a steep slope to rough on huge slope near bunker, pitch it back out to 12 feet and two-putted for double and felt decent about it.
I play off approximately a 10 handicap and shot an 88, which I wasn't upset about for my first time playing the course, with several blind shots, not knowing which way the fairway was actually going, and having no experience with the greens or where to miss.
Will return as this is a great test of golf, with many forced carry tee shots, long par 3s and par 5s, minimal tree coverage, and a variety of short game shots presented to you, you could really build up your rolodex of golf shots.
We were the only ones on the course so can't complain about pace of play. Overall course was fun greens in great shape, they have a lot of undulations in them, no real straight forward putts, so that was a challenge. Very long par 5 625 yards + uphill, that was fun. Guy in clubhouse was very rude and we seemed to a nuisance to him, other than that was a fun but cold day of golf.