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Played here for the first time this past weekend:

Routing - Very good piece of land and a lot of the holes make good use of it.

Greens - As others state, the greens are in good shape for a public course and relatively quick. However, I found the contours from green-to-green to be redundant. It seems every green is circular in shape, sloped back to front, with very little internal contour. You could place yourself on any green and not know what hole you were on.

Fairways - Lots of slope, makes for a lot of interesting side hill lies. In good condition.

Tee boxes - Lots of issues here. First, way too much slope on the tee boxes and impossible to find a level lie on many of the par 3's. Second, on most of the par 3's, the tees were placed on the side of the tee boxes with overhanging limbs blocking half of the green. This doesn't make a course tougher, all it does it slow down play and frustrate golfers. There were big backups on the par3's because overhanging limbs forced everyone to miss the green on the most penal side of the hole....makes no sense. Please do not place tees behind overhanging limbs, or even better, develop a tree trimming program to trim them back.

Pace of play - Way too slow. A Saturday morning tee off at 8am was a five hour round. For $90 I find that unacceptable. I can go play Bethpage Black for $75 in five hours, but I'm playing Bethpage Black and know that comes with the territory.. Rangers were out there in carts, but I never saw them actually talking to groups. They spent all of their time observing...maybe they think their mere presence was improving pace of play? It wasn't.

Overall - Great piece of land, good course routing and conditioning. But way too many trees that force lines off the tee and uninteresting green complexes.