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I played last weekend with three friends, fluctuating between 8-12 handicap. The course wasn't particularly challenging, but it has got to be the most abysmal layout of any course I've played. Just about every hole you're hitting blind tee shots and then another blind approach shot. We had to be constantly driving up to watch each others shots. The course is not that long, but very rare to have any true birdie opportunities. I think we only used our driver twice on the whole round. Consistently using 6 irons off the tees. Tee boxes need some help, too.

I wanted to like this course, but after about 10 holes we realized the layout wasn't going to get any better. I'm all for a hard golf course, but this layout made the course honestly not fun to play. Rarely do I leave a golf course and think that I didn't have fun, and somehow this course left all four of us with that taste in our mouths. For what we paid, I'd choose a hundred other courses before returning here.

First time playing the course and we truly loved the layout and conditions. Views are beautiful and greens were in great shape.

We played a Saturday morning and the course was busy. We were about 7 holes in and a ranger (Jim) approached our group and rather than nicely asking us to pick up the pace, the first thing he says is "play catch up, you're behind". Our group looked at each other and were a bit confused. We had been waiting to tee off on the majority of the previous holes (not long), and 7 holes in we were approaching the 2 hour mark (so we were on pace of play). Moreover, there are many shorter par 4s here. We had a few long drivers in our group and we respectfully waited until the group in front of us cleared the fairway prior to teeing off to ensure we were not hitting into them.

ON THE SAME HOLE, no less than 2 minutes later, Jim approaches us again, and very unprofessionally berates us and tells us if we're warned once more we'll be moved up a hole. I have never heard of any group ever receiving two warnings on the same hole.

The group I was playing with are all pretty good golfers (single digit to low double digit handicap, with one player having been a teaching pro for some time), very respectful of every course we've played having grown up around the game. Had we been behind pace of play, we'd of course acknowledge it and do our part to speed up, but this was not the case.

The most surprising part of this was that the group behind us was a group of elderly gentleman who were never once waiting on our group.

Jim was hands down the most unprofessional ranger I've come across in my time playing the game. His attitude toward our group ruined 3-4 holes as we were suddenly and unreasonably rushed to play. We obliged to Jim's request, sped through a couple holes, and then we never once saw the group behind us again. We even went into the clubhouse to get a hotdog after the 12th hole, went back to the 13th, and teed off before we even saw the group behind us approach the 11th tee box.

It's a shame that someone's unprofessional demeanor can easily almost ruin a round. Living in New York, you pay a premium to play golf here, and that goes for this course.

The course was very nice and we'd like to play it again, but if we're going to be playing $80+ to pay, we shouldn't have to be hounded by a ranger unnecessarily.

I hope that Middle Bay can address this with Jim, I'm sure we're not the only group that had an issue with him and his general intolerant attitude.