Back9Ben

Back9Ben

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I'm a value based golfer who enjoys the best course conditions and most dynamic layout for the least amount of money. From local munis to bucket-list destinations halfway around the globe, I'm always in search of the next awesome course and a good deal.

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Total 222 Reviews
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222 Reviews
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4 Stars
88
3 Stars
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2 Stars
6
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Recommended Courses
206
Not Recommended Courses
15
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142
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14
First Review
05/13/2013
Last Review
05/12/2022

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Lake Chesdin Golf Club

Played On 03/15/2020
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
Previously Played

Very nice right now

Played here with a friend and we had a good time. Greens were pretty fast for this time of year. Test of the course looked really good. Always love the layout, a nice challenge but not too hard. A bit pricey compared to others but I think it's worth it and my buddy who had never played here agreed. Always recommend this place.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

The Fusion of Southern Hospitality and Premiere Resort Golf

I was fortunate enough to be invited to play Full Cry at Keswick Hall and will always remember it not just for a great round at an excellent course but for the hospitality and elite staff that I would put on par with the finest clubs in America. Since the course was catering specifically to the outing I was a part of I’ll try to focus mostly on the elements any resort guest would experience here.

First and foremost, this is one of my favorite Pete Dye layouts. Tough but fair is the way to describe the design and how the course plays. Classic Dye elements are everywhere from coffin bunkers to sharp drop-offs next to the greens to railroad ties. There’s even a repurposed train car made into a bridge that gets you over the small ravine on the 16th hole. But there's little to get overly frustrated about, unlike a lot of Dye's courses. Fairways are generally wide open and many have helpful slopes that border them, rewarding a near-miss and guiding it back into play. There are also slopes near many of the greens that guide balls towards the flagstick. That's not to say this course is a walk in the park. Many of the bunkers--both fairway and greenside--are well-placed and there’s certainly a few you may not notice until you hit your ball towards one! I also liked the layout of the tee boxes, with plenty of options for all skill levels, and really only forced carries from the longer tees on most of the holes.

The conditions are very, very good as well. Just a small point of critique but nothing that impacts your play. Tee boxes, fairways, and bunkers are all nearly immaculate. I particularly enjoyed the sand in the bunkers that had a satisfying weight to it--not too fluffy, not too heavy. Greens are exceptional, some of the best bentgrass greens in the area that were a good speed (8.5-9) and perfectly smooth. Putts generally rolled straighter than the line appeared but there were still a good amount of longer putts made by our group.

The rough was clumpy in some spots but where it was lush, it was excellent, nice Bermuda grass that kept the ball propped up near the green where it’s cut shorter. Balls do bury a bit further out on either side of the fairways.

The facilities here are world-class and you’ll be hard-pressed to find a better staff anywhere. The course adds a lot of small touches that really make the experience a special one. This is a stay-to-play course and it’s not a cheap stay but absolutely worth it if you come. Nearby Spring Creek has the “best Charlottesville area public course” award locked up, but for those looking for a more exclusive experience, it doesn’t get better than Keswick Hall.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Colonial Heritage Club

Played On 08/06/2019
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Still The Most Underrated Course In Williamsburg

Williamsburg is the top golf destination in Virginia and with good reason. Many of the state’s best courses are within easy driving distance of each other in this corner of the Old Dominion, on either side of the historic district of Colonial Williamsburg. Courses like Golden Horseshoe, Kiskiack, Williamsburg National, and Ford’s Colony are all highly regarded and much talked about, and deservedly so. But Colony Heritage Club is still the most underrated and the best value of them all.

The layout here is arguably better than any others this side of the Gold course at Golden Horseshoe. Kiskiack may have a couple nice water holes but Colonial Heritage is challenging, fair, and fun from nearly every tee. There’s forced carries, elevation changes, and a couple narrow landing areas to make you sweat but also plenty of forgiving holes that give you options for strategy. The signature par-5 5th and the awesome par-4 16th continue to be my favorites but there’s plenty to choose from.

The conditions here are also noteworthy. Despite a hot summer there was no sign of stress at this course. Bermuda grass tee-to-green certainly helps but just because the grass can grow in the heat doesn’t mean it’s maintenance-free and the work the grounds crew puts in definitely shows here. The greens, although showing some sign of traffic, are in beautiful condition and roll fast (about a 10 on the stimp) and true. The fairways likewise are smooth and nearly entirely free of soggy spots. The rough is nice and lush, the bunkers are well maintained and there’s no issues with the tees either.

The staff continues to be a highlight of your golfing experience at Colonial Heritage. Friendly and professional, especially the starter. With the dozens of courses I visit each year, it continues to amaze me how much courses undervalue the position of the starter and what a huge difference having a good one can make. I was one of the first groups out after a members league and the starter told me I’d probably catch up to them around hole 6. Guess where I caught up to them? It was like magic. Thankfully, they were done and out of the way by the time I reached #9 and it was back to a nice 3-hour pace from there on.

Taking into account all of the above as well as the first-class facilities here, Colonial Heritage continues to be an excellent value, with GolfNow Hot Deals going for as little as $26 right now, an absolute steal! Even at the $65 I paid for a weekday morning, it’s well worth it. If you haven’t played here before, you absolutely need to put it on your list for your next trip to Williamsburg. If you have played here before, I don’t even need to tell you, you already have.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Commented on 08/20/2019

Thank you so much for your wonderful review and beautiful pictures! We look forward to hosting you again soon.

I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

An Incredible Experience And A Beautiful Course

I was invited to play rounds at both the Championship and River courses here at Trump National. While both were equally fantastic experiences, there were a few differences in the courses, so this review covers just the River course.

The River course was definitely my favorite of the two courses in terms of the layout. Despite its name, the River course doesn’t actually have any holes that border the river. Instead, it offers a more diverse scenery and design (compliments to architect Arthur Hills, one of my favorites) than its sister course. Rather than a completely open layout, the River starts you out in the hills and trees, beautifully framed by flowering bushes and manicured creek beds. After several holes you join the floodplain shared by the Championship course but even here I found the River’s holes to have just a bit more character and required some extra thought for tee and approach shots alike.

This was particularly true of the par-5 8th hole which is likely the most controversial of the 36 on property. With two separate water hazards threatening your layup and/or approach shots, playing safe isn’t actually that easy to do (as I found out). Our caddie Con was not a fan of the hole, mostly because of how difficult it is to communicate a successful playing strategy to his players who haven’t played it before. Once you’ve walked the hole, however, it becomes more clear and I ended up liking it quite a bit. The last two holes finish up in the woods, though the 18th isn’t as grand a display as its counterpart over at the Championship course.

As with the other course here, the conditions of the River course were impressively excellent. Northern Virginia’s summer weather has been an utter disaster for many public courses in the area without the resources to combat the prolonged periods of flooding rain and sweltering heat. Looking at these courses though, you’d have thought it was 80 degrees everyday with a light shower each night. Greens, fairways, rough, bunkers, and tee boxes are all kept in immaculate condition, very green, very even, and very smooth. The thick rough will grab your club, making finding the fairways and greens extra important.
The greens are pretty quick (rolling about a 10) but with just the right amount of slope and undulation and the bunkers are predictable to hit out of. I recommend a forecaddie or yardage book as many of the golf apps don’t have the updated routing. Our caddie Con was fantastic; friendly, helpful, and professional and helped me achieve my lowest score ever!

The facilities here are world-class with an absolutely massive locker room inside the opulent clubhouse. The practice area has a grass range, chipping/pitching green, and putting green that would be the envy of most public courses. The food served in the restaurant downstairs was excellent and all members of the staff exceedingly professional. I really enjoyed my two days playing here you ever get an opportunity to do the same, don’t pass it up!

Conditions Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

An Absolute Pleasure To Play

I was invited to play rounds at both the Championship and River courses here at Trump National. While both were equally fantastic experiences, there were a few differences in the course, so this review covers just the Championship course.

The aspect of the course I was most impressed by was the condition. Despite heavy rains and scorching heat for weeks prior to my visit, the course showed no signs of stress from either extreme element. Greens were fast (rolling about 10) but not too firm and buttery smooth. The fairways, tee boxes, and rough were all lush and green. Bunkers were immaculate and really framed the holes nicely. The only aspect that took some adjustment was how thick the bentgrass rough was. Even with a forecaddie, many wayward balls took time to find and chipping onto the green from the heavy rough was challenging. You can tell the maintenance crew take their jobs very seriously as I saw crew members hand-watering hot spots on fairways on multiple occasions.

The Tom Fazio layout was as splashy as you’d expect. The back tee box on #1 sits nearly 100 feet above the fairway, making that shot not much longer than the blue tees 70 yards ahead but at ground level. Several holes border the Potomac river, a unique viewing experience for this area and a real treat for those who appreciate links style of golf. The sight of the giant American flag by the 16th hole is present from most of the course (and often a good aiming point, I’m guessing by design). The giant waterfall/fountain used as a backdrop on #18 is truly impressive and perhaps a bit distracting but a cool touch.

Wide open, relatively flat layouts are not my forte but I found the design of this course to be enjoyable nonetheless with a great variety of long, short, and medium par-4s, some diabolical par-5s and a good assortment of par-3s. Greens are not overly sloped but the speed of them makes even shorter putts require your full attention.

Of course the Championship and River courses share the same staff and amenities and they are both world-class. The clubhouse is extremely impressive with the largest locker room I’ve ever seen. Food was excellent, the staff on all fronts extremely professional. Our caddie, Con, was absolutely fantastic and if you have the opportunity to play here and want a forecaddie to guide you, I highly recommend him.

The range, practice greens and other off-course amenities were exactly what you’d expect from a private course with this level of prestige. It really helps to have some time to sharpen your game before playing a course like this and I was able to do just that in about a half hour, going from full shots to pitching and chipping to putting.

It was a pleasure to play here as I truly enjoyed the “6-star” experience. I don’t often have the opportunity to play courses like this and it was certainly an opportunity I’m glad I didn’t pass up.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Potomac Shores Golf Club

Played On 07/30/2019
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Conditions Have Deteriorated But A Solid Course Besides

Playing Potomac Shores GC had been on my to-do list for years and finally an opportunity to make the drive from Richmond presented itself this week. While the conditions of the course weren’t what I hoped for, the other aspects of my first experience will ensure I make the trip back up here again soon.

I had heard so many positive things regarding this course and after reading reviews posted just a few weeks prior hailing the playing conditions, I felt confident the $49 twilight fee would be a no-brainer. I arrived at the course with high hopes but it soon became clear how quickly things can change.

The course has clearly been struggling with a bad batch of weather the past several weeks, but I’ll first focus on the areas that were in the best shape. The course spent a lot of time and money on renovating the bunkers and changing the fairways to Bermuda. These improvements were noticeable, the bunkers I found to be the best aspect of the course, very well done and aesthetically pleasing. I found myself in a few of them but didn’t find them overly penal.

The fairways had recently been punched but aside from that they generally were in good shape. There were signs of heavy traffic but I expect that with just about every NoVa public course. It seemed that the Bermuda grass was handling the hot, wet conditions far better than the bentgrass rough and greens.

Now for the bad: nearly every green and green surround/apron had a significant portion that appeared to somehow be simultaneously burnt and rotten with bare, blackened, and soggy patches that made chipping and putting unpredictable and overall was a bit of an eye-sore.

The rough was perhaps the bigger issue from a playing standpoint. Around the greens much of the rough was clumpy and uneven. There were also many spots of rough so bare and dry that they had put down landscape netting. For a course that typically charges $70-100, I do expect better turf conditions but, again, I know they can only do so much when hit with bouts of extreme weather.

There are some courses where conditions and design go hand-in-hand to frame your opinion of the course and this is certainly one of them. With the degraded conditions, I wasn’t able to truly appreciate the design of the course. There were several creatively constructed holes with visual illusions that try to play tricks with you. I actually found that I played better by trying to ignore these tricks and play each hole straightforward but some dumb luck kept me from making a mess of things on a couple holes.
My one complaint on the layout is not unique to this course: there a lot of driving between holes, and gives the perception that the course was almost an afterthought to the design of the Potomac Shores community.

But enough with the negativity, I can’t say enough nice things about the staff here. The cart attendants were delightful and friendly as was the gentleman in the pro shop who drove around as a marshal during my round to check on things (a rarity at 7pm on a weekday at most courses).

WORTH NOTING: After posting some comments about the course conditions on social media, a member of the staff contacted me to address my concerns and I am always grateful when the course reaches out to show they care. I am looking forward to returning here when conditions improve but for right now, my recommendation of this course comes with an asterisk to wait until conditions improve before paying the full rack rate if value is a priority for you.

Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Lake of the Woods Country Club

Played On 07/25/2019
3.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Walked

It Is A Golf Course…..Yes

Playing Lake of the Woods Golf Course is an uninspiring act of mundanity (is that a word? Well it is now). The course layout has few memorable holes or features, the conditions are better than some, worse than others, and pace of play is neither speedy nor sloth-like. The staff is friendly enough, the on-site amenities are just ok, and the cost to play reflects all of the above.

The design of the course is very parkland with somewhat narrow, tree-lined fairways, modest elevation changes, a few water hazards, and bunkers sprinkled here and there to give a pale illusion of difficulty. As the layout is predictably intertwined with the houses of LOWA (this is a gated community after all) there are several holes with white stakes that you must avoid and lengthy walks between some of the holes (though this course is quite walkable despite this). A week removed, I’m struggling to remember any more holes than the ones I took photos of.

The speed of the greens is inoffensive. Bunkers have enough sand in them to justify their existence. The rough is decently thick and the fairways are cut short enough so as to incentivize you to hit them. The overall conditions are utterly acceptable and nothing more.

The best thing about playing here is actually the food inside the clubhouse. Breakfast served all day is music to my ears and the staff actually undersell the french toast by equating its quality to that of IHOP.

There is no room for a driving range but the putting green and separate pitch/chipping green with practice bunker is an agreeable consolation.

I paid $30 to walk 18 holes, about right for this course, but the 90-minute drive up here would not be worth it on its own. Thankfully there’s Meadow Farms GC just across the street and other courses in the area that I like well enough to venture up this way again, but I’m not sure I’ll include this on my future itinerary.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
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Commented on 08/06/2019

Hello, Back9Ben. Thank you for taking the time to leave us such a detailed review. We are sorry to see that your overall experience was anything short of 5 stars, but we hope you'll give us another try in the near future.

I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Charm Factor Diminished But Still A Solid Play

Over the years the charm and uniqueness of Meadow Farms Golf Club has been reduced as I’m sure the course struggles with the upkeep of so many unique,high-maintenance features. While that makes the course less quirky, the layout itself still holds its own with plenty of diversity in the holes and plenty of shots to utilize to score well here.

The conditions were pretty good the day I played with the greens, fairways, bunkers, rough, and tee boxes all looking well. Signs of heavy traffic were the only detractor. They were spraying the greens with that bluish-green chemical that gets all over your ball and hands but doesn’t really have an impact on play.

The long 600+ yard par-6 is still the draw for me to this course; I love playing such a unique hole that really challenges you to make 4 good swings.

I make it up here about once a year and plan to come again soon.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Heritage Oaks Golf Course

Played On 07/23/2019
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Walked

Prime Conditions Make This The Best Time To Play

I play this course a few times a year; it used to be my home course before I moved away. The layout remains solid for a muni course and the more you play it, the more you appreciate its design. Conditions are generally pretty consistent here and despite a very hot and dry summer in the Valley so far, the course maintenance team has done a great job keeping the course very playable with few signs of heat stress. The course can get busy but it’s not too expensive either (especially if you walk or get a GolfNow Hot Deals tee time), making this course a good value.

Heritage Oaks remains the best public course in the Harrisonburg area and I always recommend a visit; and if you live here, a membership.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Pendleton Golf Club

Played On 07/21/2019
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

A Nice Course To Escape From The Norm

I played Pendleton Golf Course the afternoon following the end of the British Open (sorry…*ahem* Open Championship!) as a way of seeking an outlet for the game we see on TV that we all wish we could emulate. This was my first time playing here and it turned out to be a perfect choice!

Getting to the course was a bit of a challenge: if you’re coming from the south, Google will direct you down a gated service goat path instead of the course’s long driveway guarded by no less than seven 5-mph speed bumps. This is a small criticism in the grand scheme of things but holy suspension pains, Batman! Please get rid of these!

The course’s website advertises the Thomas Walker layout as “Like playing in Scotland without the airfare.” Well, close. Not sure whoever wrote that headline has actually been to Scotland (full disclosure: I haven’t either) but this course is not the wide open, generally flat Scottish links-style with pot bunkers and massive greens that we associate with St. Andrews and other famous Scottish courses. Instead, this course does bear a resemblance to Irish links, with several blind approach shots, tall fescue grass and mounds guarding many fairways, and many greens that sit more in a bowl than on top of a hill. It’s kind of like a poor-man’s Royal New Kent, and considering RNK is my favorite course in all of Virginia, that’s far from an insult.

The conditions of the course were very good, with only slight signs of browning from the harsh summer heat, the course was holding up quite well. Green speeds were slower as you might expect to save them from roasting; the fairways, bunkers, and rough were in good shape as well. There were some bare drainage ruts here and there but nothing that really affected play.

The staff was very friendly, the amenities onsite just OK (despite a sign pointing me in its direction I never did find the practice putting green). The round was about $50 for a Sunday afternoon, not bad, but not an amazing value either. Because of the unique layout and favorable conditions, I plan to return later this year to play again when it’s a bit cooler.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Wintergreen Resort - Devils Knob

Played On 07/17/2019
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Wet weather
Used cart

A Decent Mountain Course, But Stoney Creek Is More Fun

After years of playing it’s lower-altitude, public-access, sister course Stoney Creek, I finally had an opportunity to play Devil’s Knob. Due to weather and other restrictions, I was only able to get 9 holes in (the back 9) but I believe my overall impression of the course would be unchanged had I played all 18 holes.

The conditions here are just as good as those of Stoney Creek, with satisfyingly fast, smooth greens, groomed bunkers, plush fairways, and even rough and tee boxes throughout. No complaints whatsoever despite playing immediately after a serious downpour. The course drains very well and the lower traffic compared to Stoney Creek means there’s less wear and tear on the course.

The layout, however, was a bit of a disappointment. I was told the back nine was the more technical of the two nines and very often the signature and/or more dynamic holes of any given course are on the back nine as well. This being a mountain course, there was plenty of elevation change to account for. But the straight-up-then-straight-down flow of the holes and lack of creativity really limited the course’s appeal to me, and I am a particular fan of mountain courses. Yet here I found far less diversity in the holes than Stoney Creek and not a lot of thought process needed to route your way through the course. Many of the holes ran together in my mind with a couple looking almost identical. There was also a lack of scenic views that you might expect from a course 3000+ feet above sea level. At least my tee shots went farther.

The staff was excellent. Because of the storm (and other factors) I got to spend plenty of time in the pro shop interacting with the lady there and she was very kind and friendly and was diligent in keeping eyes on the lightning monitor to let everyone know when it was safe to go back out.

As this is technically a private course I generally refrain from giving the course a specific value point. But for the hassle of getting to the course (nearly 30-minute drive up from Stoney Creek) and the fact that the lower course offers GolfNow Hot Deals, I think I’ll stick to it from now on.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

The Gold Standard of Virginia Public Golf

I’ve been waiting years to play the Gold course at Golden Horseshoe. First, it was too expensive for my budget, then it was too far away, and for the past two years the conditions haven’t been up to the standard they’ve set with the rest of the course.

But finally today, with recent reviews raving about the conditions and with thunderstorms surrounding the Williamsburg area, the stars aligned for me to finally play here and what an experience it was!

First and foremost, let’s address my primary concern going in and that is the conditions. I’m pleased to report the work they’ve done on the greens has paid off, they are as good if not better than the greens on the Green course, and that is high praise. Perfectly smooth, perfect pace and slope, and fairly easy to read. Putting on these greens was a real joy.

The rest of the course might be in even better condition. Tee boxes are immaculate; your tee just sinks into the ground with the slightest effort. Fairways are lush and buttery smooth. The rough is evenly consistent in thickness and height. The bunkers are exceptionally groomed and filled with a wonderfully heavy, gritty sand that encourages balls out of them rather than swallowing them up swing after swing. Heavy rain towards the end of my round had no effect on playability as the course seems to drain very well.

The next thing to note is that the layout is every bit as good as you’ve heard. Yes, the par-3 16th and par-4 17th are perhaps the best of the bunch but each and every hole has something to offer and it would be difficult for me to narrow down to four as my favorites. More than the strategy involved in scoring on them, each hole is beautifully presented. This is one of the most photogenic courses I’ve ever played and it wasn’t easy to pick just six photos to post here. Though there is still a sizeable gulf between them in every way, this course is more like Augusta National in its look and feel than any other course in Virginia.

As I witnessed during my visits to the Green course, the Gold also offers fantastic amenities, facilities and a professional staff. To get all that plus a world-class course to play for as $69 is an exceptional value (less so if you play in the morning where it can reach $150, but this course certainly warrants that premium).

If I had a dollar for every time I’ve been asked before today if I had played the Gold course at Golden Horseshoe, I wouldn’t have needed any extra to cover my round today. But now I can say I have, that the hype surrounding the course is warranted, and that the course is spectacular! I have written 150 reviews here on Golf Advisor and have only given three courses 5 star ratings across every category. The Gold at Golden Horseshoe is the fourth, it is well-earned and well-deserved!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Wintonbury Hills Golf Course

Played On 07/05/2019
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

A Great Conditioned Pete Dye Course That’s Not Too Tough

The name of Pete Dye attached to any golf course strikes fear into the hearts of many a golfer. But Wintonbury Hills Golf Course represents a softer and gentler side of Mr. Dye. That’s not to say it’s a pushover or that his signature design features are absent, but that they’ve been applied in a way that’s not as frustrating as at other courses of his.

The layout here is very good, I really enjoyed the contrast of the open, links-style of the front nine that transitioned to a more traditional parkland, wooded layout on the back nine. This allows the golfer several holes to collect themselves and find their game (especially off the tee) before being challenged for accuracy.

That said, there was one glaring lack of diversity as it pertains to the first two holes of each nine which share such a striking resemblance to each other, you can’t help but assume it was designed that way on purpose and wonder why. #1 and #10 are both straight-ahead, flat par-4s (both very scorable) and #2 and #11 are both uphill, slight dogleg left par-4s that really challenge par.

That quirk aside, the course fits well into the setting, reminding me a bit of TPC River Highlands (the only other Connecticut course I’ve see up close) on some of the holes on the back nine. And while the conditions here aren’t exactly PGA TOUR level, they are quite good for a public course. Tees, fairways, and rough were all in very good shape despite a lot of heat and rain this season. Greens were slower than they appeared but this likely was on purpose to guard against burnout. The iconic Pete Dye bunkers were well-filled with soft-ish sand that’s not overly difficult to hit out of.

I found the staff to be friendly and the cart girl was very attentive. Just one drinking cooler on the front nine had me begging for water by the turn on this hot day but there were more of them on the back nine. I showed up for my tee time with seconds to spare so I did not get a good look at the amenities.

$79 for a midday Friday tee time seemed reasonable for the area, neither a shockingly good deal or a bad one. I would definitely recommend this course to anyone wanting to experience Pete Dye’s design without the aggravation.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
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Commented on 07/24/2019

Thank you so much for taking the time to leave in-depth feedback and a 4 star review. We appreciate it. Hope you travel to CT again somtime soon to play.

Owl's Nest Golf Club

Played On 07/03/2019
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

A Premier New England Course Still in Recovery

It breaks my heart to only give my favorite New England public golf course 4 stars for the first time but the conditions simply don’t warrant 5. The maintenance crew here seem to be doing the best they can with an absolutely awful hand dealt to them by the weather gods this past winter and spring.

Several greens have significant bare spots in them and some of the holes have areas that still can’t be mowed and are oversaturated, hampering play and playability. The rest of the course is still in great shape so it’s by no means bad throughout but certainly not up to what the course usually has.

The staff continues to be great here and the layout is still one of my absolute favorites. Hopefully they can get this course back to the standard I’ve played multiple times. A twilight rate here is still worth the underperforming conditions but if you’re looking to stay-and-play for a few days, maybe hold off for a bit.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

The Lazy Swan Golf & Country Club

Played On 06/30/2019
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Wet weather
Used cart

A Worthy Introduction to New York Golf

After driving through the Hudson River Valley dozens of times en route to NH from VA, I finally decided to check the Empire State off my lists of states I’ve played and after reading several reviews, chose The Lazy Swan as my destination and I’m sure glad I did.

The aspect of this course that drew me to it and that I’ll most remember is the fantastic and unique layout. The signature par-5 7th hole is one of my favorite holes ever with a towering tee shot and nice risk-reward options from the fairway. Back-to-back par-3s on #9 and #10 is highly unusual but this course’s collection of par-3s is so good I didn’t mind in the least.

The diversity continues with driveable (but blind) par-4s, long par-5s, wide open holes and some narrow landing zones. The elevation changes will definitely test your club selection and distance control. Even though it was my first time out there, it was easy to see everything in front of me from the tee on most of the holes. The look and shape of the course made it an absolute joy to play.

The conditions were a bit of a mixed bag. Clearly the course is well-maintained and while the greens were still recovering from aeration that was probably well over a month ago, they rolled smoothly with good speed. It was obvious the course has been working on the bunkers with many of them having fresh sand that’s doing a better job of keeping the weeds out than those bunkers than haven’t been attended to. A couple bunkers were unplayable but properly marked as ground-under-repair.

Tee boxes, fairways, and rough were all in very good shape despite the overall wet conditions. There were two short downpours that came through during my round and the course drained quickly from them both.

The staff here is friendly enough and the facilities are ok but the lack of water on the course, drink cart, and no driving range were noticeable and missed. I got a Hot Deal for $25 on GolfNow, making this an excellent value. I would highly recommend you check out this fun course if you are in the area.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Commented on 07/05/2019

Thanks for the review! We are currently repairing the bunkers, the engineers did a horrible job with the drainage in them. As for a driving range, if we had the room, we would have one. Hope to see you again!

Magnolia Green Golf Club

Played On 06/27/2019
3.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Conditions Improving But Greens Still Too Much For Average Joe

I last played here a month ago when the greens were blazing fast and the pin positions in objectively silly locations. There were also a lot of bare spots and many of the bunkers were a mess.

Today's round showed improvement in all these areas. Much of the course is fleshed out, bunkers were better but still need work, and the pin positions were mostly fair. Add to that the speed of the greens were noticeably slower and the result was a score 15 shots better without playing any better.

But the shape of the greens, especially on the back nine continue to make playing here more of a chore than a leisure activity. This course beats you up, regardless of how well you play it.

The staff continues to be the best part of this course, among the friendliest group of people I've encountered on any course. I really wish the course was as kind as they are.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging

Providence Golf Club

Played On 06/15/2019
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Noticeable Improvements Means Better Value

I played here a couple times last year when I first moved into the area. I was unimpressed with the conditions of the course for the price you pay, especially during the week. This time it was a weekend and the twilight rate with cart was actually less than many of the alternatives that were further away so I thought I’d give Providence another chance and I’m glad I did.

Despite perhaps the best weather of the year crowding the course, I had a very good experience overall. The course conditions were much improved over last year with nice even grass in the fairways and smooth greens. Bunkers were in great shape and no complaints about the tees or rough as well. Definitely a big improvement over last year in terms of conditions.

This improvement allowed me to better appreciate the Lester George design of the course, especially the back nine that I had only played once. There’s a good variety of holes that will make you use every club in your bag. There are plenty of hazards throughout but none that I found unfair. The greens aren’t fast and don’t have a lot of break to them but making putts is still challenging. A sign of a good layout is an urge to go back the next day and play it again and I’m definitely feeling that way today.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate

Coyote Ridge Golf Club

Played On 06/13/2019
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Punched Greens Don’t Take Away From Great Experience

I was just passing through the DFW area and wanted to get a round in before my flight. After reading a lot of reviews of different courses (there are *almost* too many options to choose from) it became apparent that I was in the middle of aeration season so I just picked the one most convenient to my location that wasn't too much, Coyote Ridge.

A lot of things to like about this course. First and foremost, the service and amenities are fantastic for a round that can sometimes go for less than $40. Very friendly staff, valet cart service, free range balls (mats only when I played), great restaurant and locker rooms facilities, and good practice facilities.

As previously mentioned, the greens were only a week past aeration and it really showed. Definitely a 2-putt max situation with lots of unpredictable bumps and speed changes. I made just one put over 6 feet and it was mostly luck.

Other than the punched greens, the course is also still recovering from storms and flooding. It doesn't really affect play though but there are several detours for the flooded cart paths. These temporarily issues aside, the course is in great shape with fantastic fairways and well-maintained tees, rough, and bunkers.

The layout here is unique and there are a lot of fun holes including several challenging par-3s that are long or over water. There's also a very good variety of par-5s with some get-able in two, others that really force a layup but all of them manageable. Three shorter par-4s bring your round to a relatively forgiving finish but many may not appreciate the funky finishing hole that takes driver out of your hands (for most players) and requires marksman-like accuracy off the tee and a delicate approach shot to a shallow and unreceptive green that slopes front to back.

Pace of play was a mixed bag. With a tournament teeing off in front of my 3-some, it took 3 hours to play 11 holes, but they then cleared out and we finished in a respectable 4:05.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Commented on 06/18/2019

Hi Ben. We appreciate you taking the time to leave a detailed review of our course and rate us. Thank you for the 4 stars and being so understanding in spite of the recent rain! We aim for a 5-star experience, so we always welcome feedback for improvement. Thank you for playing Coyote Ridge Golf Club.

I Recommend This Course
5.0
Featured
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

The Flashy Side of Barton Creek Combines Fun and Fancy

If you’re looking to get the full Tom Fazio experience in the Austin area, Barton Creek has you covered with his wildly fantastic Fazio Foothills course. A spectacular layout, pristine conditions, and all the amenities of a premium golf resort make Foothills a must-play destination for all Fazio fans. As a Local Advisor, I was invited to play here as a non resort guest but paid for my round in full.

The course design might seem a bit tricked up to the more conservative golfer but I found the massively elevated tees, various hazards, and numerous nearby waterfalls made for an exciting and eventful round.

Many of the fairways are wide and forgiving and even with all the ponds, creeks, trees, and bunkers, you’ll often have no issues reaching the greens in regulation. That said, stray too far from the short stuff and you can end up spending quite a bit of time looking for lost balls and dodging central Texas wildlife critters, so be careful.

Like the Crenshaw Cliffsides course next to it, Foothills offers some amazing and challenging par-3s. Nearly every hole has its own character and the many vistas from the tee boxes and the aforementioned waterfalls offer plenty of photo opportunities. You’ll also use every club in your bag on this course and I like that the par-3s offer a good variation of distances so that you’re not just reaching for your 6-iron every time.

I’m a total sucker for a good elevated tee shot and as such the par-4 10th is already among my favorite holes in golf and can only be described as absolutely epic. You could just about sit down and drink a whole beer waiting for your tee shot to land in the fairway 100+ feet below. It’s a cool shot and a really fun hole.

Contrast that joyous experience with the par-5 18th, an exceptional test of your golf game with one of the hardest approach shots on a par-5 I can remember playing. The third shot is sharply uphill with a deep gorge guarding the front and thick rough covering a steep up-slope behind the green. You have to have your distance control and math skills dialed in while combating the fatigue from the first seventeen holes.

Fazio Foothills, like it’s lovely contrasted Cliffsides partner are well-maintained by the maintenance team at Barton Creek. You’ll appreciate the work they put in, especially around the greens with smooth, fluffy rough, groomed bunkers, and putts that roll like they’re on fresh carpet (only much faster). While the course demands a premium rate, it backs it up with a top-tier on-course experience and plenty of amenities to go along with it.

Barton Creek has put their best foot forward with these two courses and as someone who traveled all the way from Virginia to play it, I can unequivocally that it was worth the time and money. I look forward to playing here again during my next visit to the Lone Star State.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 25 Contributor
Virginia Advisor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

The Softer Side of Barton Creek is Quite Rewarding

This was my first experience at Barton Creek and my first Ben Crenshaw course as well and I came away equally pleased with both. I was invited as a Local Advisor to play here but paid for my round.

Barton Creek is an impressive sight as you drive up with the towering hotel and country club buildings. After parking in the first golf course parking garage I’ve encountered in my golf travels (I’ve from Virginia, so perhaps this is common in ATX), I made my way to the pro shop to check in. The staff was very friendly and helpful guiding me through my warmup (the range is around the corner of the country club) and onto the right tee box (see my review for the flashier Fazio Foothills course).

Once on the Crenshaw course, I was able to relax and mellow out a bit as the design of this 18 is more subtle and inviting than its counterpart. I like that this resort has two such contrasting designs that compliment each other very well. The Crenshaw course may not have the photogenic style as Fazio’s rendition, but there’s still plenty of playing strategy to utilize as you make your way around the course. Though there are a couple blind shots on Cliffside, you’re generally able to see everything right out in front of you to plan your attack of the green.

Speaking of the greens, they are quite large and not overly sculpted, making your GIR stats happy. That said, I was almost immediately struck by the similarity of this course's design with what I’ve witnessed on TV of Austin CC when the pros play their match play event there each year. In particular, the steep drop off and plentiful hazards that surround the sides and backs of the greens add a subtle level of intimidation that will focus your approach skills (or suffer the consequences).

Course conditions are exactly what you’d expect from a premiere resort like Barton Creek. From tee to green, every surface is well maintained and in great shape. Bunkers are groomed, greens roll smooth, true, and relatively quick, and fairways a lush. I’m sure this isn’t the cheapest place in town to play, but you certainly get your money’s worth out on the course.

Perhaps the best aspect of the Crenshaw Cliffside course is the seeming lower play count when compared to Fazio Foothills, so if time or pace of play is more important to you, I’d definitely recommend this course.

The resort’s amenities are pretty impressive as well with a grass range, separate chipping and putting greens, and a very nice clubhouse. Two minor complaints: the chipping green by the range is also meant to be for putting but can get crowded and awkward if you have multiple players trying to accomplish both tasks. Also, the 19th hole bar is only open during certain hours and a lack of signage can make it difficult to determine where said bar is and where to go to grab a bite/drink if that bar is closed (there’s a poolside restaurant a little further down).

For my first ATX golf experience, I think Barton Creek was a great choice and I look forward to returning there on my next trip to Texas!

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
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