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The fairways were over-watered and were so moist that with any type of downward strike created huge divots the size of Texas. Way too wet. They should use some of the extra water on the tee boxes as the tee boxes were shredded and clearly not being looked after, as most of them are uneven with humps all over. The greens were terrible. So shaggy thick like old school carpet, there was no roll. What happened?? They were always nice and quick. The greens were also too soft and there were minefields of ballmarks. Not puttable, not fun. The best thing were the bunkers, they were in good shape, as long as you found areas where people had raked them!!! For the price it’s a bit of a rip off compared to City courses. I don’t recommend playing it right now, compared to how it was a couple months ago.

Bunkers….. bunkers man. It’s on both the course AND the players to take care of the bunkers. Rake them!!! It’s on the course to tell people to please, just rake the bunkers and take care of the course. New golfers need to be educated on etiquette, and the course has to do it, because not all new golfers have friends. Because the USGA and PGA and SCGA nor any of the courses are telling people nor reminding long term players to take care of the course. It’s a sad sight. Today, it was clear that the greens keepers didn’t even rake them before the day started.
The tee boxes are great. Really amazing. Lots of watering done around the tee boxes, that probably could be used to water the other areas that are dying in the fairways. It’s a bit much that the areas AROUND the tee boxes have this much grass and is this lush when there are horrible dead areas in the fairways all over the course.
Some of the greens had been punched with small holes. Nothing too bad, but all of the greens were slow, slower than the practice green. Again, if only people are educated about fixing ballmarks. Really depressing.

Greens had been lightly sanded. Very bumpy and on the soft side. The place is working to bring it back to a better shape, and so there are areas that have very thick rough and good grass in fairways, but other areas are absolutely awful, the typical dried out, crusty, dried mud areas. I don’t understand why they can’t punch and sand and seed the areas that are dried out mud, to bring them back to the thick grass like they have done in many good areas around the greens and the trees and bunker edges.
It’s just a couple days a month is all they would need to do that.
Give it a couple more weeks for the sand to settle down on the greens, they should be in great shape then, as they have seemingly figured out what was wrong with them.

Range balls not washed!! Do they not have a washer here? Do they not care? You go to Encino, they have that place running tip top and like clockwork. You come to Woodley, you get dirty range balls and there’s never enough buckets. And it’s still on mats, and they raised the range ball prices. Ridiculous. Practice putting green near the shop is trashed. It’s dying. Rotting, with dead patches all over. The course is the same as it ever was, greens are slow and barely cut, and some tee boxes are absolute junk. Nobody cares about Woodley. They could at least wash the range balls and put it back on real grass.

Unforgivable. Teed off around 9am. Took 5 hours and 15 minutes to finish. The whole front 9 was backed up, with almost 4 groups on the 4th hole. Nobody knows what happened, but we waited on every shot until the 15th hole.

Course is in very good shape. You can tell they’ve put an effort into taking care of it. Good grass on fairways and rough, the greens are lush and nice to putt on, though not as quick as they are known to be usually.
Pace of Play though. Even with the tee times spread, there are too many “new players” who have come into the game during the pandemic who have no idea what they’re doing. And on a course like this where it’s very tight and with lots of slopes and drop off where the ball could disappear, it’s too hard for them but they show up anyway, and hold up the whole course slowing everybody down. We saw a few 2somea try to skip ahead. But it was also not great to see these 2somes jump back in when they a space on one of the holes to try to play it ahead of that slow group who’ve slowed down even more that they created that gap. With no marshals out looking after the course it took almost 4.5 hours to play a course that’s only 6300 yards!!! And most people were riding carts!!!
No decent golfer would mind seeing the skipping around, by singles and twosomes on carts - if only they would just ask nicely or politely. But for them to just in ahead of us from the side when we’re standing on the tee and are about to tee off - that’s where golf has gone wrong. Somebody at the USGA and the course associations to let new golfers know how golf is supposed to be. But they don’t care - they haven’t made this kind of money since the heydays of one Eldrick Tont, golf hasn’t regained popularity to this extent since then.
There were no rakes in the bunkers!!! And so of course nobody fixes them at all. City courses have them so why doesn’t county courses have them??? Makes no sense.

The course is going through renewal repairs. The grass is being grown back. Tee boxes are lush, overly so. Fairways have had some new sod relacement in giant patches, and it looks like they are attemting to define the fairway from the rough like it’s supposed to be, but a lot of the course has not grown back. Which is all nice, since it had gone through some bad patches of crusty thin lies like everywhere else. Unfortunately we won’t know if they can maintain it at all because we’re about to head into a drought again and so the watering maybe limited.
There is brand new sand in the bunkers, really nice sand. But!!! NOBODY was raking them. People are so lazy. It’s unforgivable really. Are people still that paranoid about Covid? If so, then why can’t they at least use their feet to brush out their own footprints??? The club needs to tell people to do so, it needs to let players know about the sand and to please brush out their footprints if they are too afraid to use the rakes.
The greens weren’t very good. They hadn’t been rolled so they were bumpy and I’m sure that’s also a part of their plan to bring the course back to better playing conditions.
Everybody knows it’s not a walkable course - and not a beginner’s course - we got stuck behind some terrible beginners and they didn’t move aside even though we were up on them the whole day. Where’s the etiquette education?? The club needs to let people know, as does the USGA in public announcements.
I will never recommend this place to anybody.

Did they even punch? Do the greens keepers even know what they’re doing or even care? The tee boxes are trashed. They didn’t even pour sand on them to smooth them out while they punched the greens. Fairways were just not cut so it appears as though there’s grass but it’s just all clumpy multitude of all types of turf like it’s been for years and years. No rough, as always, just the usual crusty dry junk. At least the fairways are soft so the ball won’t run out too much right now, but again, this course is backwards in design in that sense, where the fairways need to be softish to hold balls from rolling down the sideways slopes, but there’s no rough to catch any balls that do go too far down the sides that go rolling into the dry, caked mud rough areas under the trees between the fairways. Seriously though: greenskeepers hadn’t done much to the course, so they have had days and days and days during all this time to just put some sand and seed down on the tee boxes to make then playable. It’s downright robbery to make people pay these higher prices when the course is not being looked after. Most of the greens looked like they hadn’t even been punched last month, they already have semi fungus indentation and scarred areas. Clearly didn’t sand them enough. Seriously. They can’t spend one day, just one day, to make the tees better, at least the tee boxes???? Nobody’s doing anything with the bunkers, there’s no rakes in them nor barely any sand, so they have time to do the tee boxes!!! It’s so sad. Truly sad.

Tees good, fairways good, greens nice. The only slight knock would be the bunkers. They can be crusty because they don’t always water the course before they rake. In other words the bunkers get flattened and a bit firm and crusty as they use the sprinklers in the morning for the whole course but don’t rake the bunkers to fluff them up after the water has hit them all. So the bunkers can be hit and miss.
The fairways were a tad moist today. Actually had mud balls a couple times in the middle of the fairway after good drives.
Front 9 greens were way faster and firmer than the back. So that inconsistency might cost you if you’re not careful.
Other than that weather was great without much wind, but just enough to get you on a couple holes today.

Tee boxes are all trashed and uneven. There’s some tees that had been blocked off to try to grow the grass. But the other areas are so bad it gets depressing after a couple holes to have to try to find a good area and footing every time. Fairways are not playable. Huge divots everywhere, not filled, nor fixed. Clearly nobody would want to play out of them so what do they do? Take it out of the divots, hit off a cleaner area, and then create a new divot, and then not fill it! There are areas that are dry and hard, and then there are areas that are muddy with water underneath, but they are not roped off, but you won’t know it’s really bad underneath until you hit, and take out a huge chunk. Which is also why there are so many divot holes everywhere. All the usual landing spots and lay up spots are completely not playable. You would need about a couple dozen sand bottles per player per round to keep the divots filled.
Rough? What grass there is around the rough are all in patches and clumps, and the rest are dead, barren, bare, mud, dried, flat, caked areas.
Greens had been punched with small holes, and like sponges with mud and sand layer. They were so soft, and since nobody fixes ballmarks, there were literally hundreds of ballmarks on every green.
The greenskeepers were so lazy, the mud pellet pieces they took out from making the small holes were scattered next to the green fringes so nobody could putt, or even chip, really, because you had to try to remove all those bits away to get a clear path! But it would take so long the round was taking for ever, as players would try to clear their own path on every hole!
There is nothing consistent with any of the course in the terrible shape that it’s in. Literally the worst shape it’s been since the drought.
Why don’t they get a new greenskeeper who knows what he’s going and who actually cares about the place?
All these new golfers are coming around thinking it’s a cool place to play but they don’t know etiquette and don’t fix any divots or ballmarks and it making the place worse.
The supposed “improvements” they made to the courses with new grasses etc - are gone. Grasses are all mangled and mixed up in the rough, not growing consistently because nobody’s taking care of the place. They still haven’t figured out how to evenly distribute the water on the fairways so that there aren’t these overly wet areas or overly dry and hard areas. Why don’t they cut the grass lower in the fairways and roll them out too so that it’s thinner, faster and firmer more all around?
The hard dry caked patches in the rough need to be punched too, but why don’t they do that when they do the greens? They have the machine out, obviously.
This place is sad. Management need to be renewed.

Wished they’d let us know that there’d be light sand on the greens.
Nobody said anything when we checked in.
I guess they recently seeded the tee boxes, and they were thick, but also a bit muddy. I don’t understand why they don’t just use the same grass as the fairways on the tee boxes, because the fairway grass is awesome right now. Truly, the only tee boxes that may need extra care would be the Par 3s, so why do the tee boxes get the lush rye grass overseed in the winter when the fairway is the standard right Bermuda? Seems like an awful waste of time and money. Most of the tee boxes were too thick to get a clean strike with the irons on the Par 3s.
The bunkers are some kind of weird mud type, that when wet like they were today, are kinda chunky and not very nice to hit out of.
Bit pricey for what it is.

Always nice to play at this magnificent lay out.
A couple of greens had been re-done recently so that would be the only knock on the place. Those couple greens still need some more time to regrow and get firm like the others, as they were softer and had a sand layer underneath.
18th tee was closed! Temporary tee was from the ladies.
Pace of play was excellent, and the rest of the course was great. Greens were firm for a bounce in, but not overly fast unless you were way above the hole.
We had to wait for a second on the 13th tee as families with their little kids wandered down the fairway got out of the way. This happens pretty much every time here. I think the Inn should instruct non-golfers to be aware of the game and the course, that it’s not a park, when guests check in at the gate or the hotel.

Course was very playable. Greens not so fast, very firm andfast enough. Good coverage on tees and fairways. Bunkers are a hit or miss as they get watered with the course so they can get crusty hard. Sometimes the fairways can be a bit moist underneath abs can cause mud balls, which I had on a couple occasions. Not much roughy to speak of, and some rough areas that used to be grass is now mostly the sand layer with shaggy bits of grass here and there.
The driving range is on mats still, and the mats are nothing like the course grass so beware.
The putting and chipping areas are nice, glad we get to use them.
They need to clean out the bathroom next to the shop. It’s pretty embarrassing, that thing.

Front 9 has many areas near the green fringes that are extremely muddy that you have to go 10 yards to find a decent non-muddy lie. The course has added sand on the greens but they ought to do the same with those fringe areas to control the moisture.
The back 9 is in much better shape.
But most of the tee boxes are really trashed on the whole course.
The fairways are shaggy and really hard to hit off when the dormant grass grabs your club and then the mud under also kills your shots during the winter months.
Somehow we got stuck in a traffic jam on 13, when a lady group had a player carrying her bag!!! They were barely teeing off, and there was another group waiting behind them. Everybody started moaning and groaning as did the group who caught up to us, and they were 2 holes behind!

The greens are great. Lets get that straight. However, I think the back 9 greens are smoother and cleaner than the front 9. Must have been done at different times.
The rest of course.... just fair. The fairways are about what you would expect with the dormant Bermuda grass. But what is shockingly poor are the rough, which is totally hit or miss and patchy and boggy and muddy and hard pan etc - you name it, you’ll get it all. Which is really bad, because they had only recently re-did the whole place only a few years ago. So sure, they’re paying attention to the greens, but the rest of the course has a lot to be desired - do the head greenskeeper not care or does he not know how to maintain it all?
The tee boxes are thrashed on a lot of them. If anything they ought to use the same Bermuda on the tee boxes so the maintenance would be minimal then, much easier. But because of the rye grass type they use on the tees and the rough, if it’s not looked after, it gets ripped to shreds and become very thin and patchy and muddy. Really not a very good look.
Oh the driving range...... seriously guys. Isn’t it about time you replaced those mats?? They are finished. There’s no top layer left on them. It’s been like that for probably 4 years!!! Unforgivable, really, for a place like this. Even the balls were bad now. They were dirty, scuffed, and clearly have not been replaced in a couple years. The range, as everybody knows, is just a nightmare here, and if the club cares, they would at least renew the mats and balls and make it look good and fun to practice or warm up. I will never warm up on these mats again - screws me up for the round.
POP was fine, about 4:30. Though on the back, we waited on every shot as the group ahead of us totally slowed down.
Place had got a lot of work to do.

There’s not much rough to speak of at the moment, so if you do tend to over shot side to side etc, the ball will run away from you so it’s best to play to the fat of the greens. Overall the course is in decent shape, some of the tee grounds need work and they’ve thrown some sand on there, but needs to grow them back a bit more. The greens are in excellent shape mostly. They’re always on the softer side to make them receptive which is fine, because a day like today with the winds howling at 40mph it’s nice to know the ball won’t get away too far once you hit the green with enough descent angle. They are rolling fairly nicely. It’s just such a shame that people don’t fix divot marks.
I think the worst green on the Vineyard side is the 18th green, as it is surrounded by water so it’s always a bit moist, therefore it’s always a bit more bumpy than the others, and could use a bit more rolling to flatten it out.
Other than that the whole place is a good place to play and practice. Nice to have the practice putting greens accessible.

The starter guy says they started punching some holes so we get a discount. Fine. Some holes will have temporary greens while they punch. Fine. The course made more revenue this year since the new management took over. Fine. Told us about how they just got a new greenskeeping crew and things should be getting better. Fine. The bunkers have been raked so they’re more playable. Fine.
Driving range not open until 1pm. Not fine. It used to be open in the old days. What happened?
The course is in horrendous shape. Do you know our local Victoria Links course? Notorious for having barely any grass? Montebello is now its cousin. Bare spots with no grass all over the course. Sure they were starting to punch - but these “temp greens” weren’t even in playable spots - they just put a hole and a flag so they can quickly punch and sand the real one and put the hole back once the punching was done onto the real green. So if you happened to come across one of these temp things you were out of luck from any kind of playability.
The bunkers ..... hahahahaa..... sure they “raked” them but they still had no sand. Just a little brushing done to them on the hard pan mud base, with a thin layer of dusty mud. Same old, same old.
You would have thought that if they had made more money this year even with the COVID they would have put sand in the bunkers.... nah.
And the fairway are dead. Especially hole 1. They had totally quit watering the entire fairway that it’s just hard caked mud. Just the saddest sight I’d seen in a long time.
The greens that hadn’t been punched had been destroyed. They needed punching. The ballmarks all over the place were unforgivable.
I do hope they fix this place. One of the more fun layouts that everybody loves. But for them to let the course get this bad while they took money from people and made revenue records - that’s just stealing.

I heard and read about what LA City Golf said on its Instagram page, about how it awarded the crew at Woodley for the work they put into the course etc. So I figure I’d give it a try, since it had been a long time that I had played here, thinking well, the course must be in great shape. NOPE. So not. Same old Woodley. All they had done was fix the tee boxes. Face palm here. They fixed the unnecessarily HUGE tee boxes on some of them. Not all of them. But the rest of the course is the same. The bunkers were trashed, not raked, and no rakes in them, of course, due to COVID. Greens were mushy, too wet, so they were covered in ballmarks that the lazy muni golfers don’t fix. I should never expect anything else. What award did these people receive? For what ?
The driving range is still on mats. Why? Seems to me that it would be better on the real grass here where they would move the line every day, than having people hit off the same mat in the same place every day, all day, especially if the mats are not being disinfected after every customer!!! And that goes for every driving range with mats!!! Think about it - do you honestly think disinfecting it once or twice a day is enough? Shouldn’t mats and its area be disinfected after every use? Why not? If you go to a restaurant you expect the tables to be wiped down after every customer, right? Oh and the balls at the range here are filthy. So dirty. If you go to Encino at least those balls are clean.
So what employees won what award for what? What did they do?

$65 to WALK during the week??? This place? What happened here? I couldn’t believe it. Doesn’t matter if there’s a pandemic. This place does not warrant this high a price to walk the place. The range is on mats, the course is next to a freeway, and it’s not exactly a country club in its condition or layout. I’m shocked at this price. It should be $35 during the week to walk. There’s some fun holes but seriously, I would have expected way more for this price. Look around the area - this place is more expensive than Simi Hills, Tierra Rejada or Rustic Canyon. Something is wrong here.

Might have been nice when they first built it?
The clubhouse looks sort of nice when you first pull up. There’s a cool Eagle statue, I’m sure you can find the pic for it on the web.
The dude in the pro shop didn’t seem to care much for service. Sort of brushed me off without explaining much to me even though it was my first time.
The driving range was on mats. The mats were all old, tattered, torn and ripped in many spots. A really nasty look. Not good. The balls were all a mix bag of bad balls. You would have thought a place like this would have everything nice. Don’t they want to replace things yearly with new items and keep up appearances? You have to wonder how many of these clubs manage their own places. They want it to look this bad?
Nobody down at the cart area to tell us which carts to take or anything. They’re just there so you grab whichever one. The putting green was open, which is great. They even had flags with proper cups! Is that even allowed with tha virus going on??
The starter explained that the tees were forward because they’ve been reseeding, the black tees all playing blues. We get out to the course and a lot of the tees actually played on the black, even the blue ones were back.
The front 9 is a roller coaster. Totally unnecessary but it’s one of those that was built along with all these similar courses when they were all built into these mountain hillsides on crazy slopes, gaps between holes so large you couldn’t walk it. Sure the views are nice when you drive up so high into the hills. Just like the course next door at Glen Ivy their back 9 is the same insanity into the hills with shots going up and down and across the ravines. Not a golf course. The greens were on the slow side. Kind of thick.
Back 9, goes down to the valley floor, and flattens out. Much friendlier and much more playable. And it’s good. Almost don’t need the front 9. Reason being, there is no rough to speak of anywhere on any sides of fairways. So if you just barely miss it wide, the ball runs out into the bush and you won’t find it. Which isn’t really a fun way to play, especially when the place actually has some thick rough grass around the greens! Which makes no sense. There needs to be some rough down the sides of the fairway to catch the ball on long tee shots. Back 9 greens were even slower than the front. Like molasses.
The cups didn’t have foam stoppers. Is that even allowed yet?
Some huge wedding or something was happening at the clubhouse and they were blasting music and speeches and could be heard all over the valley. Really annoying, rude, and a disservice to the players on the course.
The carts have GPS, but no pin location information. Weird.
Not a place I’d come back to. It’s in Corona, a country side town and that’s their level. A place that was built up when the Route 15 became a freeway over the past 30 years.
You get charged for the cart because there is no way to walk that front 9. They ought to increase the rates by $10 and maintain the place. Pretty sad as of now. Don’t owners of these places have any pride?