deanknight

First of all, I love this course, esp. Eisenhower. I played it addictively since '79. Stopped golf for 30 years and came back a year ago. We played in March this year and course conditions were perfect. We played again this last Mon. and evidently, the fairways were recently punched and someone let them die. So many bare spots, we all played Winter rules and moved the ball to some sense of grass nearby. HOWEVER, even when we played the course in perfect condition, the greens have been slowed so much that these masterfully designed putting surfaces have now become mundane plates of slow grass. We used to love to come here to test our putting on the fastest, smoothest, three-tiered greens around (bent grass we were told back then). That was just as much a challenge as the holes themselves. I agree with the change on the front of 14, where anything on the front third would roll down 40 yards and I agree with removing the too punitive ice plant, but slowing the greens just to make it easier for the bogie plus golfers has changed the best part of this course. This used to be my favorite course in SoCal, but not any more. PLEASE reconsider recapturing the speed of the greens.

I first played here when I was 14. Took 30 years off the game, been playing for a year now and came back to see my old friend. I had forgotten how narrow the back nine was. However, after playing the much more open front nine, you were then challenged to hit them straighter. The problem now is the nines have been reversed. Our group struggled the entire front nine (the old back nine) and made some enemies as a result. This is a beautiful mountain course, not pretentious, but interesting. The #10 (the original #1)hole is a long, uphill par 4 and will slow down most golfers, BUT so does #1 (the old #10). A short downhill dogleg par 5, but very narrow and easy to lose balls left and right, slowing down play anyways. In fact, the start of the course is so narrow, it slowed us down almost the whole nine. PLEASE CONSIDER SWITCHING THE NINES BACK THE WAY Wiliiam F. designed them. If he wanted the course to play in this order, he would have numbered the holes that way. It is not the same course I used to play and love.