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Terrible experience on 8/4/19. Slow, bad conditions.

Read below if you'd like, but in summary: there are MUCH better options in the area, don't waste your time or money at this place.

Response from Owner:

AJ, I have researched your pace of play from yesterday and I see that you teed off yesterday at 3:54pm and finished the front 9 at 6:03pm. This shows that you played the front 9 in 2 hours and 9 minutes, which is faster than our pace of play policy. This puts you on pace to finish 18 holes in 4 hours and 18 minutes, again faster than the usual pace of play of 4 and a half hours. We also had a small outing on the course before you yesterday which obviously did not slow down your pace of play. In regards to the conditions we have been constantly working to improve the conditions of the golf course by watering our greens and fairways to make sure we are providing our customers with the best experience possible.

My Response:

Thank you for your response.

Our actual tee time was 3:27, finished just after 8PM. Front nine was excruciating, waited for two groups ahead to tee off on 4, 7 & 8. Back nine pace was better, but we still waited on 80-90% of shots.

Conditions...drove on #11 to center fairway into what was essentially a waste area of dead grass and dirt. Conversely, drive on 14 in fairway ended up in a mud puddle. Found that each fairway had good spots and bad. Tee boxes looked like they hadn't been rotated in a week, and greens were littered with ball marks old and new. 12 foot putt on #8 was not makable given conditions, and this was fairly consistent hole-to-hole.

I honestly love the layout of your course, and I think if managed better it could be an area jewel right up against other area public courses (Ivy Ridge & Harvest Hill come to mind). Unfortunately, given what we went through yesterday, it will be a long time before I come back and try it again.

Below is an exchange regarding my round on 8/4/19. As bad as the 5 hour round was, the interaction with totally apathetic management is worse. Their GPS measurements are inaccurate, and don't take into account the half hour wait to tee off.

Summary - there are far better courses in WNY, don't waste your time at this one.

Me: Terrible experience on 8/4/19. Slow, bad conditions.

Mgr: AJ, I have researched your pace of play from yesterday and I see that you teed off yesterday at 3:54pm and finished the front 9 at 6:03pm. This shows that you played the front 9 in 2 hours and 9 minutes, which is faster than our pace of play policy. This puts you on pace to finish 18 holes in 4 hours and 18 minutes, again faster than the usual pace of play of 4 and a half hours. We also had a small outing on the course before you yesterday which obviously did not slow down your pace of play. In regards to the conditions we have been constantly working to improve the conditions of the golf course by watering our greens and fairways to make sure we are providing our customers with the best experience possible.

Me: Thank you for your response.

Our actual tee time was 3:27, finished just after 8PM. Front nine was excruciating, waited for two groups ahead to tee off on 4, 7 & 8. Back nine pace was better, but we still waited on 80-90% of shots.

Conditions...drove on #11 to center fairway into what was essentially a waste area of dead grass and dirt. Conversely, drive on 14 in fairway ended up in a mud puddle. Found that each fairway had good spots and bad. Tee boxes looked like they hadn't been rotated in a week, and greens were littered with ball marks old and new. 12 foot putt on #8 was not makable given conditions, and this was fairly consistent hole-to-hole.

I honestly love the layout of your course, and I think if managed better it could be an area jewel right up against other area public courses (Ivy Ridge & Harvest Hill come to mind). Unfortunately, given what we went through yesterday, it will be a long time before I come back and try it again.