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Pros: Greens rolled pretty well, especially for December
Cons: Played behind a riding 4some (we were walking) and waited about every hole. Minimum of 2 holes open ahead of them all day. Called pro shop but that didn't help.

Course was a good bargain. Tees were cut short which is great but many of the had unlevel spots, not good. Greens rolled fast and true. Fairways were good. Pace was just average (a little over 4 hrs).

This is the second time playing here and I have enjoyed it both times. Challenging layout. Pretty good condition. Somewhat slow...took our 4some about 4:20, which is slow to me.

Played a couple of other courses the week in Austin that were no where near the condition of Vaaler. Not to say this was the greatest condition but was definitely playable and somewhat challenging. Worth the trip.

Both of these courses leave a lot to be desired. The Palms is marginally better but both are overpriced for the condition they are in. Going downhill for years. Plenty of other places to play in the area for better golf at same price. People were very nice.

If it wasn't for the snot-nosed, punk kids who work at this course this could have easily garnered a 5 Start rating from me. The only downsides to the course were the tees (some of which were too crowned or had you teeing off from a side hill lie) and a few of the greens. More care by golfers AND the course to fix ball marks would be nice. Having said that, the kids who work at this course (at check-in, with carts, etc...) are entitled brats who are smart alecks and aren't there to further your enjoyment of the round.

This was a nice course years ago but now this is just a goat ranch. The tees and greens are brutally hacked up with no care from golfers OR staff. Don't waste your money. Eat at the outdoor restaurant instead. That is the best part of this place.

Always seems to be good value here. They had just aerated the greens which is never good and it would always be nice to know that ahead of time!

We have played this course on a few trips from the Midwest down to Orlando. Where do I start...
1) the tees were in brutal shape
2) the fairways had very little grass in many places
3) not sure if they are understaffed, but many of the amenities didn't open until late morning which didn't do us much good. They told us to track down the cart girl to get a drink. How do you do that between 9s?
4) most of the staff were impersonal, with one or two exceptions
5) remainder of the course was of average condition, including the greens

Play Orange County or Southern Dunes instead!

Only drawback are the greens which were recently top dressed and EXTREMELY tough. Pin placements were a little ridiculous (stay away from Wednesdays I guess). Everything else very good. Fairways were plush with grass to hit off of instead of what some clubs have which is very tight grass. Plan on shooting above your handicap!

Loved the price too for this layout. Only complaint would be the tee boxes which weren't very good. Not mowed right and not level. Also, one green was really messed up but that was it. Would play again.

This track used to be so nice. Most of the course is in decent shape but the greens were horrible. I equate these greens with Orchard Valley, where there are no many ball marks and miscellaneous bad spots that make these greens just about unputtable. You have to get lucky to make a putt out here. In addition, our GPS did not work in the cart and we had to switch carts after 9. When I called in they said "just find a ranger on the course and they will help you get it going". Well I called when we were on the 4th hole and no ranger was around until 8 and he couldn't get it working either. When you are cart path only, you definitely need the GPS yardage on the cart to get an idea of what clubs to traipse across the fairway. We got a Hot Deal at $65 and I wouldn't pay a penny more to play here ($65 was too much). Unfortunate because I like this track...

Didn't play well but not the courses fault. Tees were 8 out of 10. Greens were 8/10, be higher if aeration marks were not there still from last falls maintenance. Layout gives you a lot of different looks and can be challenging. Greens were pretty fast and had somewhat of a problem holding, especially downwind. Overall it made we want to come back and play this again after being away for so long.

This course was in excellent shape. Greens were nice but did not truly hold shots. Not sure if it was me or the greens but could not read/make a putt to save my life (normally a decent putter). Forgiving fairways and pretty nice size greens. Traps were nice too. Plenty of spots on the range with unlimited Callaway balls.

Just played this course as the first round for a few months and it was tough. It would be good to play this course more than once to know where to hit the ball. Some tee shots you can barely see the landing are and it makes it tough to know where to hit it. Other than that it was in good shape, greens rolled fine and it was challenging on top of the point made prior. would recommend but plan on playing it more than once for best results.

Course was in excellent condition with some challenging holes, tee shots and green complexes. Greens rolled very nice and the tees and fairways were excellent. People seemed very nice as well. Would have been good to know they have a senior rate which was significantly lower than what we paid on GolfNow.

The people were nice but this place is only good to practice your short game. Not very good condition, greens long and slow, tees beat up. Get what you pay for...

Interesting layout and kind of cool, but that is basically where the positives ended for me. When we arrived it took a while to get through the gate. Seemed like no one was there working yet. Finally got in (around 7:40a for an 8:20a tee time) and seemed like they were scrambling to get things setup for the day. Couldn't go the the driving range until 8:05 because the guy in the pro shop hadn't gone over there yet to set it up. Grass was dormant so they spray painted most of the tees and fairways with green paint...which gets on your ball. I would assume this would be better in the summer time or even fall...who knows. Also, there was our twosome and another twosome there early...we saw no one else at 8am and they tried to put the 4 of us together! Even though there was no buddy else there...I asked if we could go separate and the guy told me he would have to go talk to someone about that. LOL We ended up teeing off separately anyway as we spoke with the other twosome and made our own decision. Also, I have been to Scotland twice and the only course I have played that was represented here was St. Andrews. I must say the two St. Andrews holes here were similar but had some distinct differences...assuming it is hard to make fairly exact copies of the holes. Good idea but no big payoff. In any event, glad I played it but would not go back.