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First played here in 1971 when it opened. It was a premier course then but the layout is very resort like now There is construction of new hotels and roadways nearby. It's very noisy and seems congested. The front nine is nondescript with the first 3-4 holes near the construction and roadways. The back nine is much more picturesque with 4 holes surrounding a lake finishing with a tough par four 18th hole. The staff is outstanding. The "clubhouse" seems to be somewhat makeshift building with just a simple pro shop, smallish locker room / bath room. The only food is the on course cart and a outdoor walk up type sandwich counter. The course was in respectable shape with the greens being probably a 9 - 10 on the stimp (not fast by any means). We played in 4:20. The pace of play was amazing considering its a crowded resort and long distances from green to tee in some cases. As public tracks go in central Florida it's respectable but better courses within 30 minutes for sure.

This course does not have any of the typical Palmer characteristics and the overall design is just so so. It traverses thru a housing development that is very upscale for the area. The course was extremely wet the day we played with 6 holes being cart path only. The 7th hole is a par 5 that's just a design disaster. It's built in on one of the many low points of the property and the fairway was a quagmire. Bentgrass greens that were full but slow (maybe a 9 on the stimp) and bumpy. Staff was friendly and helpful. Small snack bar with limited food options (bring your own). Practice range is small with "irons only" signs everywhere. Range balls are worn out and in dire need of being replaced.

Played in late September 2022. Weather was perfect. The facilities here are basically bare bones stuff. They have a small building that houses the pro shop, cashier and a very small grill (hot dogs, burgers and a few simple cold cut type sandwiches). Don't plan on a nice lunch or breakfast. Eat before, after or bring your own food. Employees are very helpful and accommodating. The range is small with those rock hard yellow balls we all love and cherish. The course is absolutely beautiful with each hole looking like a post card. Great diversity in holes with short and long par 4's. All of the par 3's are close to 200 yards or better but many are downhill. The par 5's are all a great test of golf. The bent greens are slick and very undulating. Downhill putts with front pins will likely result in a chip for your next shot. Great experience . Make sure you have a camera/phone. The scenery is outstanding.

If you've never played this course before make sure you don't have any suicidal tendencies or fatalistic thoughts before stepping on the 1st tee. It looks beautiful from the clubhouse. Your expectations are high, the opening hole is nondescript, you get to the 2nd tee box THEN the layout gets really funky. Lots of extreme elevation changes (not for the better), blind tee shots and all the approach shots are uphill...many of them extremely uphill. Bentgrass fairways are very nice but the fescue rough is brutal. The greens are bentgrass as well. They look great but are very slow (9-10 on the stemp) and grainy. The fescue rough surrounds each green and unless you have Michelson ability with your wedges count on a bogey or double bogey if you miss the dance floor. Be sure to follow the directional signs from green to next tee or you'll get lost and never heard from again. The 9th and 18th hole were certainly designed by someone that had a intense argument with their spouse prior to putting these two disasters on paper. Two of the worst designed holes I've played in my 55 years of playing this great sport. We found this track to be a 5 hour headache. Do yourself a favor....go out to Reems Creek, have lunch on the veranda, enjoy the beautiful mountain views, leave a big tip for your server then go home with your mental facilities still in tact. The staff is great, very nice and helpful. Enjoy your lunch!!!

Not sure what course these other players / reviewers played in May 2022 but this track is in dire need of some serious TLC. Your first clue about the course conditions should be the "practice putting green" adjacent to the parking lot. Brown, worn out, grass that hasn't been mowed in a few days. On the first tee a 6 large patch of 6 inch high crabgrass between the white and blue tees....off to a good start!! Fairways and greens are rock hard. Houdini couldn't stop a sand wedge from 80 yards on these surfaces. Off the fairway looks similar to Cambodia back during the Viet Nam war. Don't even think about looking for a stray tee shot unless you have a snake bite kit, knee high rubber boots and shotgun. The layout if respectable but the course conditions are just horrible. Not worth your time of money. I'm giving it 2 stars only because the people in the pro shop were friendly.

Played Apple Valley for the 1st time on a nice day in April. The course was in respectable shape except for the bunkers which need some work. The clubhouse is old and dated but the staff was very friendly and helpful. The greens are Champion Bermuda and in decent shape. Typical Bermuda greens where its difficult to get a ball to hold even a short iron shot. The front nine routing is funky whereby you pass thru tunnels three - four times. The 4th & 6th holes are a very quirky/strange par 4 & par 5's. The back nine is more scenic, more traditional and more enjoyable with several very nice mountain views. It's a typical resort course. Beware....the practice range was an "afterthought". It will only accommodate about 5 golfers at a time. Get there early if you want to warm up.

This is your typical beach resort course with 3 novelty holes on the ocean. The course is in very good shape but the layout is so-so at best. All fairways are lined with homes with some OB but mostly red staked penalty areas. All of the Kiawah courses now have Paspalum greens with is a good surface when it's not dormant. They have been over seeded with rye and putt about as true as you can expect for dormant grass. They also hold a shot from the fairway very well. The holes on the ocean (14 - 16) are 2 short par 3's and a short par 4. Lots of ponds and lagoons (many inhabited by gators). Cougar and Osprey Point are much better layouts and better tracks overall.

Played Crooked Oaks on 11/9/2020. Here's the "low down".
Layout is excellent with plenty of diversity in the holes. Lots of marshes, creeks and ponds. Beautiful course cut through the low country topography. Course was in outstanding shape on all fronts (greens, tees and fairways). Mature Bermuda greens that rolled true, held shots well and were rolling around 10 - 10.5 on the stimp. Pace of play was perfect 4 - 4:15 at hours.
Practice area is only about 300 - 400 yards off the ocean so it's windy all day, every day. Pro shop staff is borderline surly with a "I could care less attitude". Food in the clubhouse mediocre at best and yes, it's a resort so it's overpriced. Cart girl was very friendly and efficient with a well stocked cart (food and beverage). Better to buy food off the cart than from the clubhouse. We played both courses and strongly prefered Crooked Oaks over Ocean Winds.

This is somewhat of a novelty type track. The course was renovated this year and just reopened in early October 2020. The greens are still struggling to recover as a few are spotty with bare patches. The front nine is non descript as it winds through the neighborhoods of Seabrook Island. The back nine makes it's way out to the ocean with a few holes cut along the beach. It's scenic and always windy but seems to be built for those vacation golfers that want a "beach experience". If you're a golf purist the Crooked Oaks course is a much better option. The signature par 3 on the back nine is a good hole and a photo op as well. The course was in OK shape but certainly not worth the $180 greens fee that was posted. Pro shop staff is not NOT friendly and borderline surly at best. Don't expect good service for your $180 greens fee. Seems to be a clear lack of management leadership in the clubhouse. Surly pro shop staff and mediocre food and service in the men's grill. Bring your own food and beverage. If you're looking for outstanding service you'll have to venture over to Kiawah Island.

Not sure what course the other reviewers played but this place is a disaster. The course and clubhouse opened in 1965 and absolutely nothing has been done to improve either since. The clubhouse is old, in disrepair and reeks of must and mildew. Range balls are nasty optic yellow and must be 10 years at least. The course is a true goat track and no better than a typical muni. They have bent greens which are a total mess. They had verticut and sanded the greens 7 days prior. More sand on the greens than in the sand traps. Large clumps of sand all over each green. The front nine has 3 - 4 decent holes while the back nine is nothing more than a quagmire. The back nine was soaking wet with 90% of the rough being a mud pit. We lost 3 balls on the back 9 in the rough (it had been 4 days since their last rain). Cart path only for the the final 7 holes. Gas carts with very old and narrow cart paths. You'll need a Chiropracter after your round after being beat up by these nasty cart paths. It's obvious this place has been suffering from very poor management/leadership with no improvement in sight. Do yourself a favor and drive another 30 minutes to Rock Barn and play there. This course was a huge disappointment!!

This was the 3rd Strantz course we've played. We were a foursome of single digit handicappers. We had a mid am tee time on a Saturday morning. It was crowded but the staff handled it well. "The Staff" consists of a cart guy, a lady at the snack bar, a lady at the cash register and a starter. All very nice and helpful. The "clubhouse" is a modified double wide trailer. The range balls are something you'd see at a muni with many of them coated with mud. Our round took 5:20. We waited every shot after the 2nd hole. The layout is typical Strantz with over the top mounding, undulation and elevation changes. Once you get off the fairways it is overgrown and largely unkept. The views are fantastic and the course could be beautiful with some additional TLC. The carts are gas powdered and noisy. Some of the cart paths are mud and/or gravel which are rutted with potholes. The back nine is very interesting with the 16, 17 & 18 being absolutely beautiful. The fairways are in great shape. The greens are Bent grass so the 90 degree heat has taken it's toll on them.. We found them to be bumpy, slow and wet but held approach shots very well. Overall, this course is worth playing because it's one of the few Strantz designs. It's in dire need of some TLC in the outlying areas of the course. Bring your patience and keep it in the fairway.