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Second time playing here with a partner who was there for the first time. We're both bogey golfers and found the course to be plenty long (about 6,350 yards) snd reasonably challenging from the white tees. The course has a good bit of contour to it - flat and level lies were rarely enjoyed, adding challenge to ones game. Greens were running true if perhaps just slightly slower than some that we play and the obviously well-watered fairways were in very nice condition especially during some very hot dry weather. Playing as a twosome behind a couple foursomes, we waited on almost all our shots but still got around in 4 hrs 10 minutes. Both of us agreed we would love to play it again.