shankerforever

We live here, we stop going 6 or so months ago, the tee boxes were terrible, pace of play just awful!.
I decided to try it again, when we got there they say it was a bit backed up, just before our tee time the guy say, 30 or so minutes late , he said they had over 500 players, and that it was going tobe a 6 hours or so round.
We got a refund actually the guy in the shop say, that all the locals were doing the same thing, that they had lots of out of town golfers.

I get it you need to make money but shouldn’t given a fun round be more of a priority? You can easy space out tee times every 10 minutes ..

This were nice courses the last couple of years is just bad, needless to say, we won’t even bother to go there in a long while, hopefully they change management.

Actually they have been putting the time to make the course look nice, greens are great t boxes are nice.
Pace of play is ok but it was packed so a 5 hours round you will get.

They have a new greens keeper and it shows it will be a while until all the greens are in a perfect condition, they are looking good already still need some tlc

We like this course, it has gotten a bit expensive 200 buck for 2 that is a bit much.
But it is a nice course, we are local and have a choice of many other courses, but if you are visiting its a nice course to play at.
But you add another 100 bucks and you can go play TPC Tampa bay instead.

Not sure what happen here
This 2 courses use to be in great shape,
Now, they are just bad really bad, and they are not cheap either.
Issues:
Pace of play, its is just bad, extremely bad, we stop going about a year ago, because of how bad the pace of play is, you add to it, that so many people think they can just play golf, they play ftom tge tips they can’t get off the tee box and you has to wait until they hit 3 to 5 balls each,
They dont let you play through there are 3 groups waiting on each tee box.

We were a 2 some and it was brutal, we actually jump in front of 3 groups, they went to the bathroom, just to get stuck behind 4 old ladies that really had no business being out there, they couldn’t hit the ball off the tee box, we waited for 15 minutes and just decided to just leave.

We have not been able to complete a round in this courses neither of then, in almost 2 years.

Conditions:
Bad just bad, tee boxes are just dirt
Greens are not good, fairways a mix of dirt and patches of grass.

I would not recommend this courses to anyone until someone does something about the courses and the pace of play.

Pace of play is awesome here, thet actually do have rangers checking on pace of play,

Great pace of play, the course is in great condition.

We quit there is no ranger so people just do whatever they want.
The group in front of us, were playing some kind of game, and took for ever on the tee box and on the green.

It appears that this is the norm now, almost every where we go lots of people that clearly need lessons and learn golf etiquette are everywhere.

Is it just in Florida???

We stop playing this course about 2 years ago, it was in bad shape, and completely over booked, a 5 hour round was the norm, we did not finish the last 4 times we play.

This time, it looks like either they have new management new greens keeper or alll of it,
The course is very nice again, pace of play is great,

I still would love to see a ranger and move those playing from the back tees who cant ckear the tee box, but they were moving along nicely, we finish in 4 hour and 30 min , that is great.

The last two weekends we finish in 3 and a hskf hour, which was awesome.

They do have a golf school and a very small range, so you might not get to warm up.

We made an 8:30 T.T., still very slow, and is not cheap either.
Greens are. Nice, tee boxes are destroyed
But its a nice lay out.

First time actually finish a round here or on any other course.

We decided to play at 8:30 we were done in less than 4 hours.

So if you don’t want to deal with all those slow players, play early.

The greens are awesome, tee boxes need some love.

Golf courses are very pack this days we quit on the 9, just extremely slow, is not fun, they need to space out the groups, but I get it the more pack the more money you make.
The golf is in good condition, just be prepared to a 5 plus hours round.
Again this is everywhere now is not just on this course, or find a course that tee times are 10 min apart at least.

This place has become a big mess, from the management stand point.
I know that for some reason golf courses are very busy with people who has no business being out there, if you cant get off the tee box, take lessons.
Have the ranger do his or her job and move people along, dont just drive around.

The worse part they over book the course, they also send 2 some when they know the place is fully booked with 3 or 4 some.

We play 3 holes in one hour and a half, after almost 4 hours in 9 we quit.

You had a six person group behind us, and every tee is like a parking lot, if you would charge close to 200 bucks for a 2some at least make sure they have a pleasant experience.

The tee boxes are bad, they have been for over a year now, greens are not good at all.

I for the firs-time would not recommend anyone to bother with this 2 golf courses, we try the lakes last week it was the same thing.

Slow very slow, but that seems to be the norm now, 5 hours rounds, lots of people out whom should be taking lessons and on the range, or just dont stay there hitting the ground until you almost hit one,
Again this is the norm now, but a 5 hours round is just brutal.
Tee boxes need some or lots of help , fairways are fair, most greens are ok.
Nice lay out,

5 hours round, this is literally the third time and it is just brutally slow.
Marshall:?
Yea they have one, he does nothing

The 2 foursome in front of us literally waited until the group in front off the greens, worse of then all, they couldn’t get off the tee box.

We will be taking a brake from going there, its a nice course, but if you shoot under 80’s from any tee box, as I do, you would not have a good day.

No way to go for the par 5’s in 2, even though you can they are wide open.

But in order to speed up play you would end up, hitting and iron and go in 3 so the group behind you can tee off.

Par 3’s are a traffic jam,

First things First, you dont send a 5 some that should be a no on any course.

This day it was actually a nice day started good, then on third hole, a complete stop.

As the 5 some in front of us, were playing the blue tees and they couldn’t get off the tee box, bad golfers.

Etiquette say, you should let a 2 some play through, we were a 2 some, we had to wait on every hole, there is no ranger there either.

It would be wise it your tee time is 200 bucks for 2 to at least make sure that golfers enjoy their round.

It took us 5 hours to play 18 holes worth mentioning there was no one in front of those guys.

But it was so so slow, even though the ranger kept trying to move the elderly 4 some in front of us, that didn’t work he tried.

This is a course that you really want to test your game level, elevated greens , the greens are like carpet just awesome, the whole course is just awesome.
Not cheap but worthy, I will try again and hopefully the pace of play is not slow so i can get on a rhythm.

Great great great course..
do note I dont say this about any course but they sure keep this one looking great.

Also.
Please know that when you get to be of certain age, you only have one speed, so if this happens to you, just be patient, relax and switch gears and work on some part of your game, you wont score today.

Side note:
I still shot 78 but i had a whole game plan for this course, but is ok I try next time.

Its been almost a year since we play there
The tee boxes where terrible, the greens were just bad.

This time, they have re-sod all the tee boxes and most of the greens are also in good shape or been work on.

Its looking very good..

I knew it was a donald ross design, but i was. Not specting it, too be in such a great shspe.

This course is not crazy long, but that is not the point.

You keep it in the fairways then you just deal with the elevated greens, yes elevated, it was awesome.!

Cant wait to play it again..

Ps. I rarely give 5 starts