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04/21/2017
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Terrace Lakes Resort

Played On 07/29/2020
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
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First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Front is a nice warm up for the terrific back nine

There is nothing wrong with the front nine at Terrace lakes, unless you're comparing it to the back nine. More open and less scenic, the front is a nice warm up as the back - while short - is tight, narrow and not terrible forgiving. Most of the pictures I've loaded (but not all) are of the heavily wooded back nine where, particularly from the blue tees, you simply must hit your drive where you are aiming. Balls venturing into the woods are not likely to come back out.

Having said all that, I really enjoyed this course... so much in fact that, after a quick bite, we went back out for a second round (re-rounds are free other than a cart fee if you have one, which you probably will, more on that later). I played the back much better the second time through, in part because I put my driver away in favor of my 3H. Unlike the front nine, you really can't gain much back there with driver, but you can get into trouble (even on well struck balls... simply by out-driving the fairway, as happened to me on my first pass through #10). I was also helped the second time through by knowing the greens a little. Narrow and sloped at times, knowing the best path to approach them can really save you strokes in your short game.

The course was in pretty good condition overall. The front (more open and a little baked) was - once again - not quite as good as the back. The greens rolled reasonably well for a small public course in the mountains. Terrace doesn't have any bunkers, so those were easy to avoid. The primary defense for this short (the tips are under 6000 yards) course being angles, elevation change and some rather tight windows that place a real premium on accuracy.

Anyone can play and enjoy the front nine; however, the back nine (from the back anyway) could get frustrating for high-mid or high handicappers... there is an opportunity to go through a lot of balls (n.b. it's worth it).

I would say the course is very walkable except for the (and this is not hyperbole) 1/2 mile trek from the 9th green to the 10th tee box. Because of this, the course strongly recommends using a cart. If there is no one else out there, I'd say walk it and enjoy the mid round stroll, but if the tee sheet is full it would be very hard to retain your place "in line" without a cart.

As far as other amenities, we enjoyed out meal there as much as one can in the time of Covid. We stayed in their hotel which I do not recommend unless you're kind into roughing it... it's small and on uneven ground, but was clean and functional. There is a natural spring pool you can use if you stay there as well. It's also worth mentioning that their driving range has a 160 yard carry limit, so you'll have to loosen up your driver on the course.

We found the staff in the pro shop both delightful and very helpful. We also enjoyed the other golfers we met. They were all helpful with the nuances of the course (some of the blue tees are a little hard to find, for example), and just generally nice.

Only a little over a hour from Boise, Terrace Lakes will be on out regular summer rotation going forward and I very much recommend giving it a spin if you have the chance.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Shadow Valley Golf Course

Played On 06/19/2020
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Previously Played
Hot weather
Walked

Update review

I reviewed this course in '17 and everything in that review remains true, but it's been a few years and an update on conditions etc. is never a bad idea.

Currently the course is playing great, without much in the way of pace of play issues. Yesterday we did have a slow group that bogged things down around the 8th hole (for us anyway... they were 5 groups ahead of us I'm told)... anyway, the course proactively got on top of that and by the 11th hole we were going at the pace we wanted again the rest of the way.... all that you can ask for.

As mentioned in other reviews, there are two rather different sides to Shadow; the rolling front nine (that can be a challenge to walk in places because of hills, but is still quite walk-able) and the almost entirely flat back nine featuring doglegs on 5 of the 9 holes.

There are a few holes on the front that can set you up for blind second shots, but only the 5th is really all the dangerous.

It's also worth mentioning that Shadow may have the best, most consistent, bunkers in Boise. I'm never going to say I *like* being in the sand... but I consistently feel I have a good chance - not only to get out, - but also to give myself a chance of a save in these traps.

This is very much on the short list of "don't miss" courses if you're going to be playing in Boise (especially if you're only going to play nine.... the front nine is special if you like a little quirk and scenery in your round!)

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Fairly Easy
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Cold weather
Walked

This is a *LOT* of course (especially for a 9 hole)

I did *not* play the Freedom course from the tips, and I played 7400 yards. From the black tees the par five 5th is 676, from the back it's over 700... Freedom is a long course.

I'm very used to hitting driver and then 9 iron or less into holes. Today I was hitting my 3H and 5i hole after hole (which was kind of a nice change, actually). What's nice about this layout is that the length protects the course well with regard to score; however, it is so open that your mistakes seldom need to cost you more than one stroke.

The good news is that , other than a few water hazards that are not obvious or at times even visible, it's all pretty much out there in front of you. There are virtually no trees and - short of finding some of that water - there is no excuse to lose a ball. The course is also largely flat, built in the middle of farm territory. This helps with keeping the difficulty from getting completely out of control however there is also almost always wind out at Falcon Crest to deal with.

I gave the course four stars on "course conditions" because the greens were terrific... but many areas of the fairways and tee boxes were in need of some TLC. But again, the greens were outstanding. Also, the bunkers are always playable at FalconCrest and today on the Freedom course was no exception. They aren't fluffy or deep... but they are very consistent and always give you a result commensurate with the quality of your effort (which is all I ever ask for).

Again, the Freedom course is wide open, however that does not mean the fairways are overly large and some landing areas are a bit tight. This was my first time on this course (I play at Falcon Crest often, just never this nine hole gem before) and I'm told the rough can be punitive at times; however, I had no problems playing from it today.

This isn't a course to hit up to improve your scoring average, but if you're a handicap keeper, the difficulty (74.2/140 from the tees I played) will do nice things for your diff.

The service is always great at Falcon Crest and the coronavirus truncated offerings were nevertheless on point today, as always.

It's a bit of a drive from Boise, but the Freedom course (as well as the regular 18 hole course) at Falcon Crest are well worth the trek. Just be sure to bring your big boy/girl clubs if you decide to play Freedom!

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging

Wolfdancer Golf Club

Played On 01/18/2020
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Wet weather
Walked

Worth the ride out from Austin

I really like that Wolfdancer is a course that pretty much anyone can play and find the appropriate challenge for them. The "Resort" tees are only 5636 with even the quite healthy par 3 fourth a very manageable 153. The "Professional" tees are 7205 (75.7/141). I played the blue "Player" tees (6836/73.8/135). I thought they played a little easier than the rating/slope, which is not to say the course lacked challenge.

I found a good ball placement strategy let me get around the course fairly effectively (5.2 diff in the rain with rental clubs). The group ahead of me, playing more of a "grip it and rip it" strategy, struggled a bit more. There are teeth here, but I found them avoidable if you are willing to leave your ego in the bag... I only hit driver twice, and tee'd off with 3H or 5i most of the day allowing me to avoid the more protected landing areas.

I was a little (pleasantly) surprised by how often I seemed to have a good (flat) lie, despite the contours and rolling hills throughout the course..

It rained the last couple of days and the bunkers were saturated. There's nothing the course could do about that (they were well raked) but it did make my few sand adventures (one fairway, one greenside) a little more interesting than I'd like. While the conditions in the bunkers weren't amazing, I think the placement is quite good, defending the course when the golfer decides to be aggressive but not overly in-play for the conservative player.

The layout of the course was great, featuring some wide open holes with others a bit more tightened up by trees. Some of my golf architecture friends who have issues with trees in play will also have issues with Wolfdancer. A few holes have trees in the fairway and others have them close enough to have a direct effect on play. I've always liked trees in fairways, so this was fine (great, even) for me. The trees on 7 are *very* in play and you really have to pick your landing spot there to have a good approach.

My favorite hole was 11, a short par 4 with all-you-can-eat risk/reward. A creek runs down the left hand side of the dogleg left with the ravine running further and further away from you as it gets closer to the hole. Only 326 from the blues (267 from the white "Member" tees where most people were playing today) the hole is driveable (for some, not me), but you could also lose a lot of balls trying. I took a fairly conservative 3h (224) and was left with just 85 yards and an easy two putt par.

I missed a "mini-golf hole-in-one" by three inches when I pulled my tee shot on the par 3 twelfth left but it caught the bank of the hill, rolled right by the bunker, and almost into the hole. Not the way I'd advise playing it, but It did help me avoid the trouble on the right and post my only birdie of the day.

I thought the greens were good. I had trouble with speed but I think that was more because of the rental putter I was using which I never felt comfortable with over the ball. Even with that I only had one three putt on the day. I felt there was a bit more visually in the putts than was actually present once the ball was in motion. Don't be overly intimidated by these greens, they are quite playable.

If I could give Wolfdancer a 6 star rating for service I would. it started as I got out of my car and never really "let up." Free water bottles before teeing off (and at the turn) didn't hurt either. I only saw the cart gal once (which didn't bother me as I almost never get anything, but some folks might care). One of the things I really liked was that they placed an early emphasis on pace of play, reminding me of their expectations and letting me know I should let people waiting play through (and that others had been told the same in front of me). I got through in just over 3:20 and only waited on the twosome riding in front of me twice (I walked).

About that (walking), the course is quite walkable based on hills etc.; however, there are some rather long stretches between a few holes and walking could potentially cause a pace of play issue later in the day. I went off early and it was never a problem for me (I never saw the guys after me once I got going).

I absolutely recommend giving Wolfdancer a run if you get the chance... I thought it was more than worth the ~30 minutes commute.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Commented on 01/21/2020

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Ala Wai Golf Course

Played On 10/10/2019
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Walked

Location location location... (and other stuff too)

This review was going to be all about how this course is walking distance from Waikiki beach and all the big Honolulu hotels and despite being straight forward and benign it still gets lots of play because of location.

Instead, however, my experience centered around the outstanding service and even more impressive player experience. What this course lacks in... well... course... it more than makes up for in, simply put, enjoyment.

Before I take the deep dive into how and why I enjoyed this round so much, lets deal with the course. Ala Wai is flat... super flat. It's also short (only one set of tees, the back/tourney tees aren't even set up unless there is a tourney), straight, and all in front of you. This is absolutely a course were you can put up a score.

The bunkers are... sub-optimal; the good news is that there aren't a ton of them and none of them are poorly placed. You'll only find them with a true miss-hit.

The fairways are exactly what you'd expect from a course that regularly has a page long (or longer) walk-on waiting list before that sun comes up (more on that below), worn. It felt like I hit a third of my approach shots from a divot (or a dent from a healing divot).

The greens were punched the day before I played (and, yes, they do still charge full freight) and as such the putting pace was terrible; but, you could tell that the greens do have a little character when they are running right.

The course has a few mild dog legs, hardly any penalty inducing hazards and one of my favorite features (despite so many other golfers not loving them) a tree in the middle of a fairway.

All in all, the course is a heavily used muni on a really flat piece of land. It's also the only game in town if you are in Waikiki and looking to jump on somewhere without making a bit of a commute (read: at a conference, on vacation with the family, or whatever).

Having said all of that, this was one of the most enjoyable golf outings of my life.... all because of the people involved.

I've had the good fortune of playing with a lot of players in a lot of locations (including several on my 50 states in 50 days junket)... this may very well be the best group of players I've been around. It seemed like every hole was a reunion as players passing on one hole greeted regular playing partners heading the other way.

What was most shocking about this was how little (read: not at all) it effected pace of play. This course is a race track in the morning. We completed our round in 3:07 and were a hole and a half *behind* the group in front of us at the turn... we never saw them again on the back nine. My playing partner said it's like that every morning, play that is fast and furious. (note: I did read somewhere the pace gets slow in the afternoon, so don't expect this all day long)

I play really early whenever I can, and because of that I've played with a lot of "regulars." Sometimes they make you feel like an outsider, sometimes they are nice... the group at Ala Wai makes you feel like you are one of them, and maybe always have been (and just didn't know it).

I was using rental clubs and the driver didn't have a stiff shaft... everything I hit carved its way off to the right, so my playing partner said I could use his (stiff shaft) driver if I wanted... not that big a deal, but nice. Then he gave me a glove because I didn't have one... and then... he gave me a ride back to my hotel after the round so I wouldn't have to walk. That's not all... that's just some of it... and everyone I met was like this.

The starters (both the guy the night before and the guy in the morning when I arrived to play) were terrific, going out of their way to explain how I could get on (when I called the reservation service said the best I could do was play at 10:00... impossible with my schedule) etc.

By the way, here's the secret, if you're willing to get up early, you can almost always walk-on at Ala Wai, you just have to show up really early in the morning to get on the list (which was four pages the day before i played). I showed up at 5:40 and was number 12 on the list. But, the sun came up at 6:00 and I was on the course before 6:30 (and off by 9:30).

There are a lot of great places to play in Hawaii, and if you're coming here specifically for golf it is very unlikely you are going to hit up Ala Wai. However, if you find yourself in Waikiki with a few hours to kill in the morning and want an incredibly fun and friendly experience (that won't take very long at all) an early morning round here can be very enjoyable (and still get you back to the hotel in time to head to the beach with the fam).

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Fairly Easy

Jug Mountain Ranch Golf Course

Played On 09/01/2019
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Terrific get-away golf

Jug Mountain Ranch is not really one of those courses you're going to decide to go play at the last minute. Nestled in the mountain foothills and plains between Boise and McCall Idaho it's a bit of a drive from anywhere (although, vacationing in McCall, it's only about a 20 minute drive).

Jug starts you out with one of their best holes, at least from the tee box. Nearly 100 feet of elevation drop from the tee box to the fairway below really offers a beautiful way to start the day. Do be careful, that elevation change matters and my 3w off the tee went 260 yards to the front edge of the fairway. Beyond that is a creek, so maybe hold off on the driver if you're a big hitter (no worries... there are plenty of opportunities to use it here).

The course was in terrific condition, especially for late Summer, with good clean tee boxes and fairways and smooth, relatively fast greens.

Speaking of those greens, if you do not put your shot within about 15 feet of the hole, you should expect to contend with a ridge of some kind on your lag putt. Thinking back I don't think I had a single straight, flat putt of 15 feet or more. These greens simply have a lot of contour to them and, while not overly punitive, will test your green reading skills if you want to be close for your second putt.

I think this course plays to it's rating and is a good test of your all around golf game. I found the back nine a little tougher than the front, but that may have more to do with my driver being a little more erratic back there. The course protects itself well with distance, elevation changes and a few strategically placed bunkers. I didn't find any of the traps, but was close enough to several to recognize they are well placed and in play.

My favorite part of this course were the par 5's. Two of which feature relatively straight forward, but uphill tee shots while the other two test you with somewhat blind and doglegged first shots. On number 7, for example, it's entirely possible to overshoot the fairway (I did it) before it jogs off to parts unseen to the right. The biggest of hitters could play it straight, but you'd need to get all of the ball (see pic). sixteen also dog legs to the right, but is a great place to dust off your fade. If you can carry the bunker (225ish) and get it to run to the right you can get some extra yards going downhill and make the green accessible (I didn't succeed at this). Your second shot on 16 can be tricky depending on the lie as much of the fairway is a relatively steep downhill... I paid the price for this on my second shot.

I think the one thing I wasn't thrilled with were the par 3's. They weren't terrible by any stretch, but I only used two clubs on the full set of them and I do tend to like a little more variety in these holes.

On a positive note, however, the par four's gave me a real opportunity to use more of those mid-range clubs than most courses do, so they didn't get dusty in the bag. The 443 (from the blue tees) 6th is a fun example. With Split blue tees, you can either take on a 200ish carry over wetlands (and really, you need to carry a good 240 to make the corner and have an approach) through a slot framed by tall trees, or opt for the straight line tee box on the other side of the wetlands. Even a relatively perfect drive is going to leave you 180+ (and in most cases closer to 200 yards) for your second shot.

The pace of play was fine. I teed off mid-day on a holiday weekend in a resort town and got around in 4:14. We waited on a lot of shots, but that was more a function of our speed than anything else. Just over 4 hours is quite reasonable given when and where we were playing.

The staff was great, friendly and welcoming and the "cheat sheet" they gave us (no yardage books here) was quite helpful on some of the blind shots you encounter.

It's probably worth noting that the first restroom is between the 9th and 10th holes (you come by the same facility again between 13 and 14). Between 5 and 6 there is a sign indicating there is a restroom at the practice facility across the street, but I cannot imagine heading over there and thinking you'd hold your place on the course, it's just a little too far away.

My wife and I both left the course saying we'll absolutely make the 2 hour drive from Boise play again (probably soon), and if you get the chance I'd advise giving Jug Mountain a run yourself.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Challenging without being punitive, but there are a couple surprises

I play Spurwing once a year in a corporate event, but I've never thought to review it before... go figure. As a result I have fewer pictures to share than usual.

I like this course, and as a private facility it is very well maintained. For the most part it's pretty straight forward golf and how much defense it offers against par depends on where you tee it up. It's plenty long from the tips, and several holes are set up to protect against average to big hitters with narrowing fairways and bunkers in the landing zones. If; however, you play the member (brown) tees and drive the ball in the 250 range you will likely out-punt the courses coverage on many holes and land in a safer widening fairway... depending on the challenge you want, choose your tees carefully (the pro-shop has a useful yardage book that can help with this).

I mentioned some surprises and that yardage book could come in handy here as well. There are a few holes on the back nine with a creek running through them that is often not obvious or even visible as you prepare to take your shot. I've seen several great looking shots disappear to the players dismay because of an unseen hazard.

The signature hole (which I do have a picture of because I came about 6 inches from acing it this time out) is a great elevated tee par three that plays a little longer than the elevation change might indicate. Gauging the drop and the wind can be tricky. For what it's worth my almost-ace was an 8 iron from 181... which would normally be a hard 7 or an easy 6 for me, so about a club and a half that day.

The only hole I ever hear complaints about is 14, which is a challenge at best and tricked out at worst. There are two ponds and a "perfect" drive (I hit a 245 yard 3w to position "A"... it's a 285 carry to take on the first pond) still leaves a roughly 200 carry over water to the green. I've played with several people who simply play it as a par five and layup in front of the second pond regardless of where their drive winds up.

The service at Spurwing has been great year after year and the food is always great. The course is always in great condition when I've played as well. I can't speak to pace of play since I only play there in corporate events, but I've played very few private clubs with pace issues, so I imagine the same to be true here.

If you get a chance, I'd certainly give Spurwing a run.

Conditions Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Must play, if you can...

MPCC (Shore) is a terrific course that you should absolutely play if you get the chance. A couple things to know...

Firstly, It is a somewhat traditional club and sticks to it's rules pretty closely. Things like having your phone out on the course (except for the occasional picture), changing your shoes anywhere other than the locker room, or wearing shorts, are not going to be on your agenda.

Secondly, they have a youth on the course caddie program that is terrific and I can't recommend it enough. We had two of the youth caddies in our group and both were good. You aren't going to get what you might as far as local knowledge from a regular professional caddie; however, you are doing something for the game and helping get youth engaged etc. It's more than worth it in my opinion.

The course conditions were fantastic when I played, and the layout was a terrific match. The course isn't super long, playing at 6478 (72.2/130) form the black tees I used (still less than 7000 from the tips) but uses angles and well placed bunkers (as well as a *lot* of more natural sand areas) to protect par.

For the most part the course isn't overly-punitive for a slightly mishit ball; however, a really bad shot can send you back the the tee box and really put a dent in your scorecard. It's a fair course, but you'll absolutely know how well you played looking at your score after the round.

Everyone I met at MPCC was terrific and it had more of a family vibe than a stuff club feel (despite the rules mentioned above), I really enjoyed all of my interactions and all of the service aspects here.

From a purely "wow" perspective, it's hard to beat the par three 11th hole (the one hole we did play the back tees). Standing between two rock formations on an elevated green firing about 190/195 to a green with the Pacific as your backdrop. My 7i was a little long, so don''t let the distance fool you.

I also really like both #8 and #15, both examples of the course letting the terrain keep you honest while being just beautiful holes. With large doglegs, offering a generous landing area for a 3w or other "layup" club but a risk reward Driver shot available, it's just fun golf.

I found the bunkers, the rough, and especially the greens very playable here. Again, unless you really lose a ball in the grass (which requires a pretty bad shot in most places) you can recover.

As a private club pace of play was great, we finished in a perfectly leisurely 3:44 without ever feeling rushed at all. Obviously not everyone can play here, but if you get the chance you should leap at it. It's a great, not overly stressful, walk that you're sure to remember (very fondly).

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Spyglass Hill™ Golf Course

Played On 06/10/2019
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Instantly moved into my top five courses played (which is harder to do than you might think)

Spyglass Hill is a terrific course, lets just get that out there. it moved into my top five played courses when I walked off the course, something it's neighbor MPCC (Shores) among other great courses I've played could not do.

Part of the magic of Spyglass for me was the variety of holes you will play throughout your round. The opening ocean holes (which weren't my opening holes as I played in a shotgun start because of the US Open and 1-5 were actually 7-11 for me) are terrific (while the green on 4 is a special kind of evil, more on that later) they are only part of the story here.

There is just a terrific variety of open, wooded, and appropriately hazarded holes from start to finish. One of my favorite features of any golf course is that is protects par without overly punishing for a slightly errant shot. I found this to be almost universally true at Spyglass.

The course conditions were commensurate for what you'd expect when paying (well) over $300 at a resort course... in other words terrific. The rough is thick and often a bit wet so best avoided, but there's no real reason other than a mishit to find yourself there. Spyglass seems to offer a valid attainable landing area on all of your tee shots.

The bunkers also play exactly as they should, with the right amount of soft sand in the two that my ball found it's way into. The greens are fast, but (as far as I recall, other than 4) not too fast and not unplayable in any way.

My favorite hole was the Par three 12th (said by probably no one other than me, ever) which played about 165 downhill to a narrow green protected by water on the left and a hill and bunkers right and behind. It's just a really pretty hole that is completely playable with a good shot.

For me, the most challenging was 4. It's short and seems benign, but the green, really narrow and very sloped, runs away from you fast. I landed pin high (from "position A" off the tee) and wound up all the way down at the bottom of the green.

This hole and several others beg a caddie with local knowledge. I'm not the first person to suggest it in these reviews and I'm certain I won't be the last. I played the best golf I'm capable of playing at Spyglass(from the gold tees 6538/73.8/140) and probably could have had a really magical round with some solid advice (still put up a 76, which I'm quite proud of). But there were many times when just a slightly better approach could have yielded much better results. Since you are already paying nearly $400 to play, the added cost of the caddie is certainly worth it to enhance your experience.

From the guy who met me in the parking lot, to the pro-shop, to the fellow who got mic'ed up and told us about our shotgun start everyone I came into contact with at Spyglass was terrific from a service standpoint. They went out of their way over and over again to ensure that my experience was everything it was supposed to be.

My experience was a little different than normal, of course, given the shotgun start; however, pace of play was good. We finished in under 4:30 which is always decent for a shotgun (especially when there we so many pictures being taken along the way).

For a lot of (probably most) people $385 is - understandably - simply too much to spend on golf; however, if you can afford it and you have the chance, I cannot recommend strongly enough that you play Spyglass Hill. It really has everything you could want in a golf course.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

The old course is about hole #18

Lets get this out of the way first... the reason you come, and pay, to play Half Moon Bay is the 18th hole; and, to be clear, in my opinion it's worth it. The view is truly breathtaking, the golf itself is inspired, and the experience (including an entire terrace watching you finish up your round) is terrific.

I had arguably my worst round of my (6 round) trip, but I got par on #18 and was perfectly happy walking off the course... it's that cool. Speaking of walking off the green, we finished around sunset and to complete the mood they have a bagpipe player melodiously escorting you off the course.

None of this is to imply that the rest of the course is bad, because it's not. However, it is a residential course and looking at random picture of Half Moon Bay might inspire you to think you are getting the Pebble Beach experience. And, while #18 is right up there with what Pebble has to offer, the rest of the way around is just a nice golf course.

I thought both the routing and conditions were good. I wouldn't call it the toughest course I've played, but I think it stands up to its 73.1/132 (from the blue tees) and at 6610 is long enough to stretch you out and narrow enough to keep you honest while doing so. It's not heavily bunkered, but the traps are well placed in my opinion.. occupying landing areas so as to effect your score on a wayward shot.

Other than a couple holes I wouldn't say there is anything about this course that will over-penalize poor play and the going is quite fair in general. I didn't wind up in any traps so I can't speak to them, but the rest of the course was well maintained.

the service in the pro-shop was good and in the lot outside was actually terrific. We were stuck in traffic coming down from playing TPC Harding Park that morning in San Francisco and running late. The folks at the bag drop/valet parking area were all over this for us and made sure that we got checked in and off to our tee time in time. It was the most pro-active effort I've ever seen at a golf course... especially when it was in no way their fault we were coming in hot.

I will absolutely play at Half Moon Bay again, although I do think the linksy Ocean course will be more to my personal taste.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate

TPC Harding Park - Harding Course

Played On 06/09/2019
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Straight foward course, interesting watching it transform for next years PGA Championship

TPC Harding Park was the third leg of my six round rodie to Pebble in advance of the US Open and the home of next year’s PGA Championship provided a solid test. They’ve begun narrowing the fairways for the Championship and it is still very clear where the old borders are compared to the new… it’s quite a difference. Still, my playing partners and I often wondered how certain holes were going to be toughened up for major golf competition. The “tips” only go 7169 74.3/129, that 129 slope is really eye catching (although, to be fair, it’ll probably be a bit longer next year).

I wanted to play Harding because of it being a major venue next year, but I’d recommend it to anyone looking for a good straightforward round of golf. It’s not cheap by any stretch, with a cart, yardage book, and a little swag I was set back over $300. It’s also worth noting that while riders are allowed on the course, they are not allowed to leave the cart at any time. This came as a surprise to my wife and I, but it worked out okay.

I didn’t play that far back and felt the blue tees at 6845/72.9/126 were rated just about right. I found the course to be very recoverable and didn’t think it really did a lot to overly punish wayward shots, something I view as a positive. My tee shot on 1 wound up on the 9th fairway (not impressive I know), but I was still able to play smart and only cost myself a single stroke. With a little luck I could have salvaged par.

There is not a ton of bunkering on the course, which offers a pretty straight forward golf experience. The fairways are a bit narrow now, but as they usually play seem very findable and I feel a good score is out there to be had by anyone going station to station hole after hole. I shot three over my handicap while adjusting to playing 2700 feet below my usual altitude (about a full club difference).

Harding was in terrific condition tee to green and I thought the routing was solid, especially the last 4 or 5 holes sharing opposite sides of lake Merced with the Olympic Club (another major venue). I really enjoyed the finishing hole (although I believe they are routing the course differently for the Championship and it will actually be #9 for that event) which was equal parts attractive and challenging.

Despite there being relatively few traps, I managed to find two of them and it was nice to play right and proper bunkers, they played exactly as they should. My experience in the pro-shop was a little brisk as there was a good line of people getting checked in even with our very early tee time (we were the third group out). However, I found the staff as friendly and helpful as time allowed.

The practice facility (range) is closed, perhaps for upgrades for the championship and if you want to hit balls you can, but it’s just into a net about 20 yards in front of you. The nets aren’t that high and my gap wedge was enough loft to send balls over. Given that I don’t imagine many people are at Harding to work on flighting their clubs, but rather are on the range to just get warmed up for their round, I think this is fine (I did find it a little ironic that I’d never had to play into a net before and this was the second time in three rounds it happened on this trip).

Overall, I enjoyed my experience at TPC Harding Park and would probably play again although it is a bit pricey for my budget and taste.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Crystal Springs Golf Course

Played On 06/08/2019
3.0
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Previously Played
Hot weather
Walked

Not the course I recall from college

Unfortunately the drought (and likely revenues) have really taken a toll on Crystal Springs. I really enjoyed playing here in college in the 80's but things are a bit rough now.

First the good. This track has always had a nice layout and that, of course remains. Winding back and forth against the hillside above Crystal Springs reservoir, the views are nice and the routing is good.

There is also abundant wildlife along the way including deer that, if anything, are too friendly. A guy on a tee box ahead of me had to literally shoo away a deer so he could play.

The course is very affordable for bay area golf and the pro-shop staff was fantastic and went out of their way to be helpful.

Now the not so good. The tee boxes, fairways and greens were all in really rough shape, including bare spots. Everything was hard and fast (and seemingly very much lacking in water). It was playable, but really only just so.

Magnifying the issue, the pace of play (to be fair this was a late Saturday afternoon tee time) was horribly slow to that point that nearing 3 hours in I left after the 9th hole (I almost *never* walk off a golf course). This was after two groups insisted that we played through.

My hope is that I caught Crystal Springs at it's worst and things will be better next time in in the bay area, the course I recall from my youth was really quite nice. With this in mind I'll withhold a commitment on whether I'll play there again.

Conditions Fair
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Fairly Easy

Coyote Moon Golf Course

Played On 06/08/2019
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Everything You Might Imagine Mountain Golf To Be

Coyote Moon was a great golf experience. We planned this as a stop on our drive to California for the US Open at Pebble Beach and it was a perfect breath of fresh air along the way.

This course is located just outside of Reno in the high Sierra’s and is exactly the Mountain forest course you might imagine. The views are consistently fantastic, there are a lot of elevation changes, and there is no shortage of opportunities to lose your ball in the forest.

Because of the thick vegetation all around the Coyote Moon doesn’t do much in the way of bunkering for protection on the fairways. They just keep them appropriately wide to maintain a challenge and rely on angles to keep you honest. The green have just enough bunkering to offer resistance without making them too difficult to play; this is good because often there is enough to judge given changes of elevation etc. There are a handful of holes where one less tree on the corners would really open things up, this is clearly not the courses objective.

On the topic of elevation changes there are some really breathtaking holes that will quicken your pulse from the tee. Numbers 11 (a roughly 100 foot drop giving way to a 289 yard 3 wood) and 13 (well over 100 feet of drop leading to an 8 iron from 200 yards) come quickly to mind.

I played the Blue tees (not all the way back) which go about 6700 yards and play to a 70.9/134 which felt about right. There were plenty of opportunities to lose balls (the aforementioned par 3 13 for example offers little respite for a ball that misses the green by very much); however, if you kept your ball on the short(ish) grass there is no reason you can’t post a respectable score. Having never played there before, I was only a couple strokes above my handicap.

I’ve read complaints about the “driving range,” which is simply a set of mats from which you fire into a net about 20 yards away. If you wanted to use Coyote Moon as a practice facility I can see where this would be a problem. For me, as someone who was there expressly for a round it was perfectly fine; I’m only on the range to get loose, not to try and flight my clubs. By contrast, the putting/chipping green is very large with lots of slope to practice just about every short game shot you might want to hit. When I was there, the practice green was rolling about the same as the greens on the course, which is all I really want from my putting warm-up.

The service in the pro-shop, cafe, and from the grounds crew was terrific. Everyone seemed enthusiastic to be there and eager to help. The starter was “that guy” which, depending on your taste is great or not so great. He walked me through several of the more “complex” holes and gave me some valuable insight about how the greens run in relation to the mountains around us. I love the “strater chat” so this was great for me.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

Quail Hollow Golf Club

Played On 05/21/2019
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Previously Played
Perfect weather
Walked

Updating old reviews

the course hasn't changed much since I last reviewed it in 2017 (although, right now, it is in about as perfect a condition as it can get); however, what has changed enough to warrant another take I think, is my game. I now hit a driver and routinely play either the blue or blue/golf tees.

As I mentioned in a previous review, as much if not more than any of the other 85 courses I've played, dropping back a tee box at Quail completely changes the nature of your round. Because each hole is fairly unique and challenging, this is true pretty much throughout the entire course.

Since I've started hitting driver (I average about 250 with it), Quail has become a lot more "gettable" even from further back (e.g. some of the previously blind approaches are no longer so)... however the premium on accuracy is unchanged.

Hole#15, in particular should be your gauge as to whether you intend to take on the gold tees it is a 239 yard (downhill) par three with a hillside blocking part of the green and a cart path leading to the street below on the other side (and there is almost always some wind to deal with)... often from back there, the bunkers are your best result.

In the early/mid spring the foothills the course runs through are still a bit green and the course itself is very lush, it's really a terrific time to play this course (and, at under $25 at twilight, is certainly one of the better golf values out there).

I've mentioned this before as well, but it's probably on the short list of things to know (especially for the budget conscious)... Quail is a walk only for the most intrepid golfers. Most holes have elevation change and some of them are very significant. If you choose to walk Quail, your legs will let you know about it.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging

River's Edge Golf Course

Played On 10/14/2018
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

A course where accuracy trumps distance, be careful where you place the ball off the tee...

I'm going to start with the service experience because it couldn't have been better. The gals in the clubhouse were friendly, eager to help, and went out of their way to ensure my wife and I had a great time at rivers Edge. They really set the stage for a wonderful day.

We started on 10, which is wide, open, and friendly;11 after it was fairly open as well (at least until the final approach shot on the par 5) and I had the notion that this was going to be a rather tepid walk through the Bend foothills... but then things got a bit more interesting.

As I went on (and especially once I got on the front 9), the course narrowed and the elevation changes really started to kick in. Several holes offer blind approach shots if you are not relatively long (at least ~250) off the tee (some even then) either due to doglegs or elevation rises in the middle of the hole.

it seemed very few holes are flat and due to angles and natural features some of the fairways are appear to be pretty tight targets from the tees. Fortunately, there is a decent amount of open space you can't see from the tees and more provisional's than I'd like to admit to hitting were never used (in fact none of them were used).

The other things that became readily apparent at rivers Edge is that, if you want to score, ball placement off the tee is at least as important as distance. I played the gold tees, which weren't overly long, especially when downhill shots are taken into consideration; however, more than one drive that I thought was perfect turned out to be blocked by a tree protecting the green. This is certainly a course where your scoring would improve more than usual based on the number of rounds you played and your accuracy off the tee.

My favorite hole was probably #6 Which only requires a mid-iron off the tee (I hit a 6i) to leave yourself a wedge or 9i up into the green. However the green is quite elevated and both sides are protected by rock facades, so there is an intimidation factor. Between the waterfall off the rocks and the bridge to approach the green, the hole is both manageable and beautiful to play.

I found the track in really good condition, the greens were quick but ran well and held good shots into them (two things that don't always go together). I was a bit concerned by the first (and only) bunker I found myself in, as it contained a *lot* of rocks; however I made a point to look at the other traps as I made my way around the course and it was the only one. It was near some construction so I'm certain it was a fluke and will be remedied soon.

We played mid-morning and despite a frost delay n things up a little bit, the groups in front of us moved along quickly and we only saw the majority of them once after we got going. The one group that was playing a little slower waved us through on the first hole we waited, so even that wasn't any kind of inconvenience.

Overall, I'd say be careful if you're not terribly accurate (and maybe stow the big sticks if they present this kind of problem) as you could go through a few balls here, but other than that it's a very pretty course that provides enough challenge without being over-bearing.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
3.0
Idaho Advisor
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Straight forward, gettable, and forgiving

I played the South and Middle courses (9 holes each) today (there is also a North 9, which I didn't get a chance to play), so this review will be based on those courses.

By and large McCabe is a relatively short and straight track with wide open fairwways.. Even playing all the way back (blue tees) there were only two holes that tested my rental clubs (that maxed out at a 6 iron) from a distance standpoint.

Having said that #9 on the South course (420 yard par 4, with a gradual uphill elevation change the whole way) and #3 on the Middle course (439 yard par 4) are legit testers. When the tees are all the way back (as they were today) the par three 6th is a good 215 as well (although it is a little downhill).

The course really doesn't do much to protect against a good score, or punish you for making mistakes and seems like a great place to go for a pick-me-up/feel-good round.

The staff was very friendly and accommodating and the fairways and greens were decently maintained. Unfortunately, it appears that many of the golfers here simply don't care much about doing their part when it comes to caring for the course. Several bunkers were unraked (fortunately, I managed to avoid them all) and multiple times I had to remind myself that, no, the greens weren't just punched... there actually are this many unrepaired ball marks. I'm not exaggerating when I say I don't think you could take 10 steps on any green without coming upon an unrepaired mark of a clump of grass from a mark that was just left on the green (in many places it was more like 3-5 feet). As you can imagine, this made putting very difficult at times.

I always hesitate to say that I wouldn't recommend a course; however, the care (not) taken by other players on this course make it really difficult to recommend. I do think the track itself - especially given the service I experienced - has plenty of potential to be a nice afternoon on the linls... the course is doing nothing wrong. But it's players really do make it difficult for other to enjoy.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Fairly Easy

BanBury Golf Club

Played On 09/09/2018
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Water, Water, everywhere...

Banbury features water, in at least the form of a creek running up the fairway on almost every hole (although around 5 of them don't really have any water you can find). What's interesting about this is that, assuming you don't hit a draw (or, of course, a hook) most of it is largely decorative... the large bodies of water (of which there are several) mostly run up the left side of holes.

Four of the five par 3's play at least somewhat over water; however, again, the water is typically early in the hole and avoidable with a decent shot.

So what you get is a very pretty course who's bark is a bit worse than it's bite. Banbury is pretty flat in general, although they've done a nice job building up around the greens to make the attack angles difficult if you have to approach from the wrong part of the fairway, tee shot placement is important on any holes that don't have front pin placements.

While there are not a lot of angles and virtually no elevation changes to navigate, this track makes good use of it's bunkers and native areas to provide protection. In fact, a word to the wise, if you aren't aware in advance of the OB native area that runs across the fairway (in the layup area) of the par 5 second hole, you could easily lose a stroke on a solid second shot.

I found Banbury to be in fantastic condition, especially for late in the summer. Further, the greens ran just about perfectly... fast, but not difficult to manage. I had 28 putts on my round and no three putts.

My service experience, from my call to set up my tee time to my check in through my encounters with the grounds crew were all terrific. I really can't say enough about the staff, they very much added to my experience.

I went out first, so I can't say too much about pace of play, but I was done in about 2.5 hours and the group behind me was right on my tail. Everyone I saw playing behind me seemed to be playing quickly as well, so I think - at least through the morning tee times - this is a reasonable expectation.

given it's proximity to my house, I'm not sure why I haven't played this course more that I have, but I certainly plan to put it in my regular rotation going forward.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

The better challenge of the two Griffith Park courses

Note: this review will be very similar to the review of Harding, but is not the same.

I read several reviews about Wilson and Griffith park in general talking about pace of play being an issue. I got off relatively early on Wilson (7:20) but had absolutely no issues with pace of play, completing my round in about 3:20.

Wilson is the slightly longer and more difficult of the two courses at Griffith Park. However, there is nothing particularly tricky about this track and if you can hit the ball 200+ yards straight, you can score here (I played the blues, the blacks do stretch it out a little bit more). In general the holes require a bit more thinking or strategy than at Harding, largely due to more angles and (it felt like, at least) trees.

The course has mature trees scattered about so it's not super-open; however generous fairways are available and even a shot behind a tree isn't going to overly punitive, s simple punch out will keep you from being penalized more than a single shot on all but the worst of shots.

The course is a bit worse for wear... but it's L.A. in August when there isn't exactly a surplus of water... given all of this, it's in fine shape. The bunkers played fine, which was nice. What I didn't love was the number of small concrete drainage gutters that run through the course, very much in landing areas, and can provide some very strange bounces.
The guys in the clubhouse were great and when I called to set up my two tee times they worked hard to help me get properly set up and ready to play both courses. I wasn't as thrilled with the grounds crew here; however, more than a couple times they turned sprinklers on right in front of us, including one time directly on one of my playing partners and her cart/bag... they got drenched.

It's not bucket-list golf, but it's certainly worth the affordable greens fees, especially if you play both as the second round is only $15.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
I Recommend This Course
3.0
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Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

a bit benign and gettable, but better than I expected...

I read several reviews about Harding and Griffith park in general talking about pace of play being an issue. I got off relatively early on Harding (10:30) but had absolutely no issues with pace of play, completing my round in 3:15.

Harding is the slightly shorter and easier of the two courses at Griffith Park. I should the same score I did at Wilson; however, in my defense, it was the second course I had walked that morning. :)

There is nothing particularly tricky about this track and if you can hit the ball 200 yards straight, you can score here.

Most of the holes do not require a lot of thinking or strategy, although #7 is laid out such that drive placement can really make a big difference. I was too far right and had to try to slice a ball around a tree over water to have a crack at the green... the results were not perfect.

The course has mature trees scattered about so it's not super-open; however generous fairways are available and even a shot behind a tree isn't going to overly punitive, s simple punch out will keep you from being penalized more than a single shot on all but the worst of shots.

The course is a bit worse for wear... but it's L.A. in August when there isn't exactly a surplus of water... given all of this, it's in fine shape.

The guys in the clubhouse were great and when I called to set up my two tee times they worked hard to help me get properly set up and ready to play both courses.

It's not bucket-list golf, but it's certainly worth the affordable greens fees, especially if you play both as the second round is only $15.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate

Rustic Canyon Golf Course

Played On 07/30/2018
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Idaho Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Interesting, challenging, and (very) affordable golf just outside L.A.

When I asked several golf friends where I should golf on the L.A. area the nearly universal reply was Rustic Canyon. it was a bit of a drive from my downtown lodging, but the advice was spot on and it was well worth the trip.

At first glance (and second, really) the course is fairly flat overall (especially the front nine); however, it makes excellent use of the canyon runoffs/washes to create a variety of hazards and obstacles... often showing up in the fairways or featured in landing areas. In this way the track is a nice combination of open and challenging.

I chose to make my way around with irons (from the blue tees, 6634/72.0/130) and with the exception of a couple mishit balls (highlighted by an overzealous assault on hole number one) I was able to easily navigate the course without much trouble. I played with a (much) bigger hitter (who was also rather familiar with the course) and he had no trouble making his way around either. In short, there are ways to get in trouble; however, if you execute your shots there's no reason you can't cobble together a nice round for yourself regardless of how much you elect to bite off from the tee box.

This is a course you will probably play better the second time through as the sight-lines can be deceiving because of the rises an falls of the canyon floor. For example, on hole #7 I was completely convinced that my 5i would run through the fairway into the hazard and took a 7i instead. Once I got over the ridge running through the fairway I discovered there was actually plenty of room to work with.

The skirting around the greens takes some getting used to as well. It is cut very close and from a distance is very difficult, if not impossible, to differentiate from the putting surface. On most holes it is also huge (easily 20 or 30 feet in some cases) and typically seems to run away from the green rapidly. One of my playing partners took three putts trying to finesse a ball to a short-sided pin location on #5 as the ball almost reached green but then rolled back to his feet. Twice I thought I had put a ball on the green only to see it roll away.

This should not be confused as unfair or a complaint. I actually quite liked it; however, again, it does take some getting used to and I'm certain I would post a better score next time out.

The greens are worth a separate mention as well. This will probably be the most challenging part of the course for the average muni/public course player. There are very few straight flat putts and even 4-6 footers that I normally think of as automatic were challenges. I carry a 5.7 and never sniffed a birdie, largely because of the greens. Again, not unfair, but, the challenge is far from over when you get the flat stick in your hands.

The bunkers and waist areas live up to the moniker of Rustic Canyon, typically a touch wild and unkempt with taller rangy grass growing around them. They will lead to some interesting lies and creative recovery shots, but I'd call this part of the flavor of the course and it was something I really enjoyed.

As an aside, while I never had a real shot at birdie on the day, I think several of the holes are quite gettable once you have played the course once and if you are firing your approach shots decently. Multiple par 5's are reachable with a good drive and strong approach. This is certainly a course where a number can be got, but it will be earned.

I can't say enough about the staff at Rustic Canyon. Everyone I met was enthusiastic, friendly, and several went out of their way to make sure my experience was terrific.

I'm looking forward to my next visit.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Response from on 08/03/2018:
Thank you for the wonderfully in-depth review! We're sure golfers reading this will find it very helpful. We're glad you enjoyed the challenge the course has to offer. Now that you have more of a feel for our course, we hope to see you out there again soon!
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