richardschwenz

Fun course from the correct tees, brutal otherwise.

Fast greens compared to other nonPGA courses. Older Jack design with angled greens demanding distance control, dropoffs near fairways, thick rough. Reasonable pace of play for a resort, under 4.5 hours starting at 1. Not sure how many following groups finished.

Interesting course design. Holes 1, 3, 9 have lots of ground under repair. Range is closed. Crazy new greens will improve as they age to get more receptive. Green speeds were good and smooth. Slow play was unfortunate. Some unreasonable hole placements and hole demands for a first play of the coourse.

Friendly people. 4.5 hour round. 1:00 tee time, started play at 1:30, barely finished by 6 pm sunset.

Course is mostly parallel holes with little elevation change. Bunkers are hardpan/concrete. Wash through the course was running water making it unwalkable. Lots of Sandhills everywhere. Greens were in good shape at nice speed without being tricked up.

Course was fun to play for design. Greens would less undulating than expected, and had been punched 10 days ago. Green speed and control was bad as a result. Much less sand than the faldo course. Temperature was hot (110 degrees) so expected a fast round, but ended up behind slow groups on both front and back resulting in a 4:15 round starting at 9:00.

Neat out of the way course that is worth going to. Course goes up the valley for the front nine, down for back nine. 17 fun holes and one that needs to be redone (18). Fairways and greens were in great shape. Lots of bowled fairways and greens. People at the course were friendly and appreciative that came to play the course. Course would not be walkable.

Very hot (June in Phoenix). Played O'odham as Pipash was closed. Hot deal does not specify course. Course is very flat and dried out. Fairways are alive, can not go in native area. Greens have many subtle breaks. Course is par 70, so choose distance carefully. Clubhouse is operating out of a trailer for about another year. Not my favorite course in the valley, but is a good deal using a hot deal.

Interesting playing here on pine course. Got a great deal on golfnow for first round with snow at home. Course had green fairways and dormant Bermuda rough as expected. Our foursome had a bad day on the greens because of speed (faster than practice green), slopes on greens ( better to be off the green below pin than above pin) and pin placements on knobs. One hole, I think 15, is borderline unfair with multiple water hazards in play on difficult shots. Dark blue pin flags often are difficult to see.

Good pace of play at just over 4 hours starting at 12:30. Just not my cup of tea for golf in the desert

Previous reviews have noted the number of bugs when playing. I reduced the number by a few, but my legs are showing I didn't get them all. Bring bug spray. They have also noted that the bunkers (all 100+) are inconsistent in hardness of the sand, and are difficult. The locals I played with referred to at least one as being concrete.
Played in the afternoon after a lower end tour event, and course was being prepared for Korn Ferry Q school later in the week. Result was very firm greens, at a reasonable speed. Course was in great shape, with greens only a little brown in spots. Also had some pins in nasty spots.
The course design demands that you hit your approach shots a defined distance, as many of the greens are small, and the targets are shallow, with many greenside bunkers, or chipping areas.
I'll play again if in the area. It is about 1/2 hour from the airport, or an hour from north scottsdale on the south side of Phoenix metro.

Course was really nice, but fairways were really soggy despite having just been punched. Cart path only as that would have destroyed the course.. Got the first tee time, so played quickly. Nicely designed for the most part, but wish the cross ditch on 17 that you can't see wasn't there. Didn't see a beverage cart in the hours I was there. Pro shop was pleasant.

First time playing the course. The rough was a bit soggy, so walk was as easy as could be. For the first time player, there are a couple of unseen hazards to be avoided. Pins were in some awkward spots on the sides of slopes. Still I would play again if in the area as fun if playing the correct tees.

Very pleasant time with 3 members. Quick round at 3:30, but typical for first tee time with members. The bowl shaped fairways keep the ball mostly in play as we were rarely off line too much. Green were in good shape, but are tricky, and several of the pin placements were on the side of a slope.

Good. - greens were in great shape, smooth and interesting contours.

Bad - lots of parallel holes. Construction for next two years causes modifications to course. Noise while putting in pilings. Rental clubs were brand new taylormades, but $100!

Overall - not horrible but there are better options nearby if you have easy transportation.

New holes on south 9 are good, slightly different style than original holes. Conditions were excellent for the time of year, though wish the greens were a bit faster. Very helpful staff, and a 3 hour round!

Course was in good shape for June. Greens punched probably 2 weeks ago. Played the blue tees. Back 9 is MUCH longer with holes going up and down hills. Slope to fairways are deceptive. Blue and white tees on 18 are up the dirt path near the blacks (I had to go back up the hill to them).

Will be back if in tucson.

3.5 hours as a 3some was tremendous. Many of the numerous bunkers are aiming bunkers. Playing correct tees is a must. Bunker sand depends on if close to green. Don't hit off the dark green, especially onto the pebbles.

Would play there again if given the chance.

Course conditions were good. Practice green has much different slopes bur same speed as course. No apparent effort to speed play from hole 3 on.

Course conditions are lush. Greens are in good shape. Presently playing par 70 with a major redesign of the south 9 as putting buildings on the interior of the loop.

Colorado has been hot, greens had been aerated, mowed and rolled. Net result was unreasonable green speeds, despite green fairways and lush rough. I've enjoyed this course in the past, but not today.

Hillier than expected with tricky greens. Greens were fast and true. Would play again if in the area.

Front 9 was damp, but 12-17 would have been cart path only before a heavy rain storm. Course would have been close to unplayable after the rain.